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Old 08-31-2009, 12:45 AM
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Hey Capt,

Maybe your Formula was the getaway car in a liquor store heist!


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When i stripped mine down to bare metal I found a bullet hole in the drivers door...........lol........

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Old 08-31-2009, 12:43 AM
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From what I have read, the rear "parcel tray" was redesigned for 1971 and later to accommodate the vent stove pipe on the evap system, hence the 1970 one-year-only.

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Nice and clean. I've got my 71 body in about the same stage and found a couple of small spots around the back window to fix. Interesting, I haven't seen that style parcel tray before..I wasn't aware that 70 models were different.

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Old 08-31-2009, 07:45 AM
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The guy who originally restored the 70 Camaro RS/SS I owned a few years back told me he found a bullet hole in the rear quarter.
people must have a thing for shooting at F-bodies?????

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Old 09-04-2009, 04:38 PM
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When I got the car it came with a set of 15 x 8 snowflakes. Although I like the look of those rims I don't think they look right on an early second gen car, (JMO). So, I swapped the 4 snowflakes for a set of 5, 15 x 7 rally II's. I have a sandblast cabinet but it takes forever to blast rims so I took them to a local sandblasting place and had the blasted. It cost me $25.00 per rim and another $10.00 each to have them epoxy primed. I had a choice of black or gray primer and I picked the gray. I had ordered all the paints and stencil kit from Eastwoods a few years ago for another project that I never finished so I had everything I needed to restore the wheels. I didn't care for the stencil kit, they didn't stick well (maybe due to age) so I wound up just taping them off myself. It's time consuming, but I'm happy with the results. I used all Eastwoods stuff, the silver, charcoal, and satin clear and the wheels turned out real nice. I left the back of the rims unpainted I just clear coated right over the gray primer.

I'm going to run 245/60/15 tires and I had intended to use trim rings, since I think they would accent the paint nicely, but now I'm not so sure. I would really hate to scratch those rims by putting trim rings on.
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Old 09-04-2009, 06:19 PM
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Hey Chris, they look great. Nice job!

I've had the same experience with the masks -- won't ever buy them again. As tedious as taping is, it's the way to go.

I think Formulas look a bit naked without rings, but I'd have a hard time scratching the those pretty rims, too!

BTW (and you probably know this), the correct P-metric replacement for an F60x15 is a 235/60 x 15. I've always thought the 245s look ever so slightly blimpy on a 7" wide rim....but I'm probably a minority/overly picky about that stuff. For new production stuff, we wouldn't fit anything wider than a 225 on a 7" rim.

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Old 09-04-2009, 07:22 PM
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Are those Jeep Cherokee rims on your car? I didn't realize they are the same bolt pattern.

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I'm pretty sure the mags shown in the pictures of my formula are old "Western" mags. They were on the car when I got it, sans center caps, and I'm only using them as rollers till the body and paint work are done, after which I will install the rally II's.

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Old 09-06-2009, 07:12 PM
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Keith,

I had 245's on my old 70 trans am and I liked the way they filled out the wheel wells, however, I'll keep your recommendation in mind. These were the best pictures I could come up with short of spending a couple of hours looking through CD's full of old pictures.

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Hey Chris, they look great. Nice job!

I've had the same experience with the masks -- won't ever buy them again. As tedious as taping is, it's the way to go.

I think Formulas look a bit naked without rings, but I'd have a hard time scratching the those pretty rims, too!

BTW (and you probably know this), the correct P-metric replacement for an F60x15 is a 235/60 x 15. I've always thought the 245s look ever so slightly blimpy on a 7" wide rim....but I'm probably a minority/overly picky about that stuff. For new production stuff, we wouldn't fit anything wider than a 225 on a 7" rim.
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Old 11-14-2009, 07:51 PM
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Hey Chris, they look great. Nice job!

I've had the same experience with the masks -- won't ever buy them again. As tedious as taping is, it's the way to go.

I think Formulas look a bit naked without rings, but I'd have a hard time scratching the those pretty rims, too!

BTW (and you probably know this), the correct P-metric replacement for an F60x15 is a 235/60 x 15. I've always thought the 245s look ever so slightly blimpy on a 7" wide rim....but I'm probably a minority/overly picky about that stuff. For new production stuff, we wouldn't fit anything wider than a 225 on a 7" rim.
I agree on both counts. When I used the masks some paint leaked underneath so stick with tape. As to the tire size I think 235/60R15 on 15x7 are the way to go. Here are some sample pictures...
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Old 11-14-2009, 09:55 PM
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Yes Chris, I should have bought that car from you


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I agree on both counts. When I used the masks some paint leaked underneath so stick with tape. As to the tire size I think 235/60R15 on 15x7 are the way to go. Here are some sample pictures...

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Old 11-16-2009, 11:24 PM
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Yes Chris, I should have bought that car from you
I was NOT trying to rub it in! Those are just some of the best pictures of 235/60R15s on Rally IIs that I have. I am actually in the midst of painting two more wheels so I can put that set on my 71 TA (two of the wheels in those Formula pictures are junk). I think the Goodyear RWL tires and Rally IIs look great. 255s are too big IMO. They fill out the wheel wells, but are too "fat" around the sidewalls. Maybe they'd look OK on 15x8 wheels.

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I was NOT trying to rub it in! Those are just some of the best pictures of 235/60R15s on Rally IIs that I have. I am actually in the midst of painting two more wheels so I can put that set on my 71 TA (two of the wheels in those Formula pictures are junk). I think the Goodyear RWL tires and Rally IIs look great. 255s are too big IMO. They fill out the wheel wells, but are too "fat" around the sidewalls. Maybe they'd look OK on 15x8 wheels.
I agree, they bulge out beyond the rim too much. I have 245s on my '71 T/A and even those are a little fat...

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Old 09-07-2009, 12:37 PM
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Nice job on those wheels.

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Old 09-08-2009, 01:44 PM
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Here is an original owner 70 formy in your color combo.






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Old 09-08-2009, 09:43 PM
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Bob,

That is way cool! Thanks for the pictures, what a nice, original car. Mine was optioned pretty close, same color combo and mine has the same steering wheel, console, 4 speed, and standard seatbelts. Mine came with standard gauged and rally II's though. If you have any more pictures, please post them or send them to me. I am especially interested in the original carpet color since I have heard some people say it is brown, tan or black.

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A couple of more of that car. Spotted at Tipp City 2006-8... it wasn't there this year.





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Another Castillian Bronze. This one RAIII!



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Old 09-19-2009, 02:33 PM
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Nice car to re-do. Nt first car in high school was a 1971 Formula 400. It was an auto trans car, but it was the same color as yours. Are you going to keep it the stock color? Good luck, nice car! Jeffy D

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Old 11-13-2009, 07:06 PM
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It's been a while since I posted, mostly because the body shop doesn't seem to be in any big rush to complete my car. The rough body work is done and it's in the first coat of primer. I'm real happy with the fit of the doors and deck lid, they line up real nice. (the fenders are not bolted on in these pics, they're just sitting in place so the body line looks like its off)

I spent some time recently stripping the window channels and weatherstrip channels, dash, etc... The car has some pitting in the channels, but no rot at all, so no sectioning was needed. I'm going back Sunday to finish stripping the dash and firewall, then they will start blocking the car next week (or so they say).
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Old 11-13-2009, 07:14 PM
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I had to take a drive into the country to a rural town where I could purchase the lacquer paint for the dash. I have not painted a test patch yet but it looks pretty close. The interior color is sandlewood which uses a medium color (tan) and darker color on the dash.

I went to a local paint store yesterday to have a sample of the exterior paint mixed up. My painter uses DeBeers paint (solvent based). They didn't have a formula so they had to use a PPG number and call the manufacturer to convert it to a formula they could mix. It's hard to see in this picture, but it's pretty close to original.
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