[Brian Baker]

Originally Posted by Mr. P-Body

The man was born in Arlington, VA. He got his degrees from Virginia Tech. He's just another guy "gone over the edge". It's NOT "political" or "religion". It IS sad.

Jim

Nothing "political" or "religious" to see here folks. Just another guy "gone over the edge" from the newly discovered Pre Traumatic Stress Disorder, according to Liberal Jim.

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/10/us...uire.html?_r=1

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...902061_pf.html

http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/fort-h...ory?id=9030873

[67blackcherry]

Originally Posted by Mr. P-Body

The man was born in Arlington, VA. He got his degrees from Virginia Tech. He's just another guy "gone over the edge". It's NOT "political" or "religion". It IS sad.

Jim

How did I miss this post?
You're absolutely right; only the last sentence, however.

It may not have been "political" but it damn sure was "religious".

I hope he recovers from his gunshot wounds. I hope he suffers in prison. I hope the guards turn a blind eye while he gets brutalized.

[Brian Baker]

I predict a military court marshal in his future, followed by a death sentence (unless the liberals infiltrate the military court and refuse to execute him on the ground of not wanting to make a martyr out of him). Been a long time since someone in the military was executed under military law...I wonder if hanging is still an option?

[67blackcherry]

http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/us-m...-death-penalty

Clemency Process: The President has the power to commute a death sentence and no servicemember can be executed unless the President personally confirms the death penalty.

I wonder how that'll play out.

[PMDJIM]

Originally Posted by 67blackcherry

http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/us-m...-death-penalty



I wonder how that'll play out.

One Muslim to another. I see a slap on the wrist.

[Bjorn]

Originally Posted by PMDJIM

One Muslim to another. I see a slap on the wrist.

x 2

[Region Warrior]

No way will obama bin ladin will have him executed.

BTY, the tv/radio news media around here claims home burglaries are down.
But reading the paper and talk'n to cop bud's, thier up.
Same with gas station and parking lot robberies.
Been years but i went back to condition 3 with my cop killer gun.

[SRR]

How come this isn't being called a hate crime yet?

[2002Z4CSS]

Originally Posted by SRR

How come this isn't being called a hate crime yet?

Then that would be racist.

[Brian Baker]

If this isn't criminal negligence, I don't know what is:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_fort_h...ooting_suspect

[pierced mikey]

Originally Posted by Brian Baker

If this isn't criminal negligence, I don't know what is:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_fort_h...ooting_suspect

Brian, you can't offend anyone that is Muslim and a potential terrorist by actually looking into something like this!

[Formula8]

Originally Posted by 2002Z4CSS

Then that would be racist.

No, how about because it does not currently meet the definition of a hate crime? I guess looking it up and posting from an informed position is more work than some are willing to do. http://www.fbi.gov/hq/cid/civilrights/overview.htm.

That being said, if a case can be made for the death penalty, this killing would probably be high on my list.

[Brian Baker]

Originally Posted by Formula8

That being said, if a case can be made for the death penalty, this killing would probably be high on my list.

Probably?

I'm going to nominate this for "MOST ABSURD STATEMENT OF THE DAY".

I doubt anything will come along that is more absurd, but you never know.

[67blackcherry]

Originally Posted by Formula8

That being said, if a case can be made for the death penalty, this killing would probably be high on my list.

IF????

Originally Posted by Brian Baker

Probably?

I'm going to nominate this for "MOST ABSURD STATEMENT OF THE DAY".

I doubt anything will come along that is more absurd, but you never know.

I'll second that nomination.

[johnsma22]

Originally Posted by Formula8

No, how about because it does not currently meet the definition of a hate crime?

Regardless of the stupid definition of what a hate crime is (ie, the race or sexual orientation of the person killed), I think it's safe to say that if you kill someone by putting a bullet in their brain, you HATE them! I hate political correctness and all the dopes who subscribe to its doctrines!

13 people are dead and hundreds more lives forever changed because of the religion of political correctness. How many more lives is it going to take for people to wake up? That's a rhetorical question, because we all know the answer. The dopes who subscribe to this garbage will NEVER concede defeat, until and unless they are holding the blood soaked heads of one of their own loved ones!

[SRR]

"Defining a Hate Crime
A hate crime is a traditional offense like murder, arson, or vandalism with an added element of bias. For the purposes of collecting statistics, Congress has defined a hate crime as a "criminal offense against a person or property motivated in whole or in part by an offender's bias against a race, religion, disability, ethnic origin or sexual orientation." Hate itself is not a crime—and the FBI is mindful of protecting freedom of speech and other civil liberties."

This people were killed in the name of his religion.

[Formula8]

Originally Posted by Brian Baker

Probably?

I'm going to nominate this for "MOST ABSURD STATEMENT OF THE DAY".

I doubt anything will come along that is more absurd, but you never know.

Do I win anything for that? Well Brian, it was early and I shouldn't have added the death penalty comment so in that context, I find myself agreeing with you. Either way the bottom line is this was a tragic event/attack or whatever you chose to call it and I did not intend to make it into a debate over the death penalty.

On this Veterans day my heart, thoughts and prayers go out to those killed, injured and immediately affected by the cowardly acts of this guy and anyone who somehow condones such killings. On that point, I believe we can agree.

[Formula8]

Originally Posted by johnsma22

Regardless of the stupid definition of what a hate crime is (ie, the race or sexual orientation of the person killed), I think it's safe to say that if you kill someone by putting a bullet in their brain, you HATE them! I hate political correctness and all the dopes who subscribe to its doctrines!

13 people are dead and hundreds more lives forever changed because of the religion of political correctness. How many more lives is it going to take for people to wake up? That's a rhetorical question, because we all know the answer. The dopes who subscribe to this garbage will NEVER concede defeat, until and unless they are holding the blood soaked heads of one of their own loved ones!

I don't necessarily disagree with you John. My point was that this is not considered a hate crime not because it would be racist to do so but because it does not meet the definition of hate crime based on the facts known so far. Sometimes some people just say things on the internet without any knowledge of the subject, others read it and well hell, that's good enough for them. I am not making any statement about the concept of a hate crime, just stating why it currently is not being prosecuted as such.

[Danimal]

And Chicago mayor Daley wisely offers his thoughts:

“Unfortunately, America loves Guns. We love guns to a point where that uh we see devastation on a daily basis. You don’t blame a group.”

http://biggovernment.com/2009/11/10/...-love-of-guns/

By that logic it would seem that the 9/11 terrorists were lovers of planes.

[Brian Baker]

Originally Posted by Formula8

Do I win anything for that? Well Brian, it was early and I shouldn't have added the death penalty comment so in that context, I find myself agreeing with you. Either way the bottom line is this was a tragic event/attack or whatever you chose to call it and I did not intend to make it into a debate over the death penalty.

On this Veterans day my heart, thoughts and prayers go out to those killed, injured and immediately affected by the cowardly acts of this guy and anyone who somehow condones such killings. On that point, I believe we can agree.

I could probably scrounge up a Bozo button.

I wasn't taking it in the context of debating over capital punishment, it just found it absurd because people tend to either be for it or against it if it fits the crime, not in the middle. Since it was early, I'll give you the benefit of the doubt.