[60man]

That's one hell of a "Bathtub".!!
More like a watering tank for livestock !

[NHRASuperStock455SD]

Originally Posted by 60man

That's one hell of a "Bathtub".!!
More like a watering tank for livestock !

Remember....it is made large for big motors. Tony said up to 700 cu in? Where have we heard that number before? A smaller motor you simply mill the top to decrease plenum size. This idea cam from Adger Smith 5 years ago, love the concept. Thanks to my tooling guy for making it a reality. Took too long as my rocking chair is upon me.

It is 2-3 inches taller than the stock intake set up.

[NHRASuperStock455SD]

Originally Posted by 60man

That's one hell of a "Bathtub".!!
More like a watering tank for livestock !

Yeah we need watering for all those horses!!!!!!

[RAM AIR V]

DID ANY ONE SEE LYNN'S HEADS AT NORWALK. I LOOKED BUT COULD NOT FIND THEM. JERRY S

[FFD]

Does the single plane have any kind of boss for mounting a near stock look throttle cable bracket. Any new word from your header guy on headers for the early models like the 65 or any new word for any headers

[NHRASuperStock455SD]

intake without top

[goatasaurus rex]

BAD AZZ!!!

[R 70 Judge]

V stuff is so freaking cool!

[NHRASuperStock455SD]

This intake with a flat top should be close to the stock height. I will publish numbers as soon as I can.

[Tom Vaught]

http://www.bopengineering.com/rav_du...bottom_b.shtml

Tom Vaught

ps Most would never say that I was Polite, (like polar)

[455-4+1]

Thanks Tom and others

So these obviously dont use a Std RAV bolt pattern for the intake then as there looks to be no material in the flange for an outboard bolt at either end ??

Hmmmmmm........

This picture of the head shows what looks like additional bolts as well as the outboard factory locations

Maybe this is how the TR intake bolts up using these and not the outer factory location

[NHRASuperStock455SD]

All these intakes will have the stock Pontiac bolt pattern. We are doing the front water neck cross over separately since all our RA-Vs will have reverse cooling. We will also have the ability to use regular flow cooling. More pictures soon.

I took the intake to BES and Tony likes it! We are starting to finish up the first RA-V crate motor in the next couple of weeks.

[455-4+1]

Originally Posted by NHRASuperStock455SD

All these intakes will have the stock Pontiac bolt pattern.

I still dont see how it can use the "stock Pontiac bolt pattern" outside of the rear runner
Separate water crossover I am OK with and having a "short flange" outboard of the front runners.

From what I have seen with stock RAV intakes 3 of the holes are above the lines of the port with the two outboard ones slightly lower
From the tunnel ram pics it looks like there is no flange in that location. Hence my query about the two extra "non Pontiac" holes lower toward the deck inboard of the outer runners ? These must be redundent or for some other purpose as they arnt in the "stock location" Possibly for a future blower mainifold ??

I would have thought that the TR would have required a longer flange at the rear to pick up the rear factory bolt location (This would typicaly be the same offset from the outer runner at the front to allow heads to be swapped from side to side)

Hopefully I am missing some thing simple here

[johnta1]

Lynn, nice article on your 'Crate Engines' in Pontiac Enthusiast magazine.

[Brian Baker]

Originally Posted by 455-4+1

I still dont see how it can use the "stock Pontiac bolt pattern" outside of the rear runner

Hopefully I am missing some thing simple here

The mounting holes aren't cast-in, so with enough meat in the head, they can be drilled and tapped anywhere you want them...just a matter of changing the program on the machine.

[brians]

Brian:
To use you own words
Oh, for the love of Christ.
What part about of Lynn’s statement is so hard to understand?

Originally Posted by NHRASuperStock455SD

All these intakes will have the stock Pontiac bolt pattern.

Lynn can make his intake and heads any way he wants. They are his to make and sell.
Use them or don't use them. It is not up to me.

Hope he and the parts do great, but 455-4+1 asked a simple question based on Lynn’s statement and for 2 pages he has been getting partial answers.

[ho428]

Brian B, you cannot put your holes anywhere you want, only between the runners it looks like.
You might could stack or stagger and get 4 holes per side, but I wouldn't want to run it with only two bolts per side.
The end runner may be thick enough to counter bore into it some, but until I see one mounted I'm as confused as several others how he intends to secure it.

On the previous page Lynn said

All these intakes will have the stock Pontiac bolt pattern. We are doing the front water neck cross over separately since all our RA-Vs will have reverse cooling.

Personally I don't care if it's factory mounting bolt pattern or not as I do not have factory V heads, but I'm curious as to the actual bolt pattern he'll end up with.


Edit: Typing at the same time as BrianS it seems.

[Brian Baker]

See this? I see all 5 factory mounting locations, plus two more. What's the problem?

[Brian Baker]

See this? I see a prototype intake that is not the final product, but it still has room for the center mounting hole between the two runners. Yes, on the left of the shot there doesn't appear to be enough meat for the outboard mounting hole, but Lynn has said "All these intakes will have the stock Pontiac bolt pattern. We are doing the front water neck cross over separately since all our RA-Vs will have reverse cooling. We will also have the ability to use regular flow cooling." I can't tell what is happening with the right side of the intake in the shot, but again...with enough meat in the head you can drill/tap the mounting holes anywhere you need them.

[455-4+1]

For the love of Christ Brain (even though I am not a God faring man I may well soon have to turn to devine intervention to get an answer on this one)

YES I SEE THE HOLES IN THE HEAD !!!!!. I have commented on both the stock 5 upper holes and the two additional lower holes previously. No issue there

Please tell me how you would fix the flange of the TR outboard of the rear port to "stock mounting location" hole "A" in the picture below

Please tell me you are waiting for the Patent documents to arrive before divulging all to us on your magic "air flange restraint system". Or will it be like the header fix off an accessory mount hole for heads with the missing outer bolt hole and boss ??

The intake shown cannot use the "stock mounting locations".

How hard was it for someone to say...........

"we ommited the rear mounting flange to save money on the prototypes"

"we ommited the rear mounting flange to make the prototypes shorther so they would fit in a box we had"

"we ommited the rear mounting flange on the prototype beacuse we intend to use the other two additional holes in the head to do their job and will use the out ones for another purpose"

"we ommited the rear mounting flange on the prototypes because we forgot about them but lucky its only a prototype and we can alter the cores to include them on the production peices"

Or whatever ????

I promise I wont ask again, I have obviuosly greatly oversimplified a very complex problem I just cant get my head around