[mike nixon]

Originally Posted by The Boss

Doesn't matter that classic Ferraris are completely rebuilt around a vin on a chassis and sell for millions, or Duesenbergs, Bugatti's etc.. Other than the legality, I don't have a problem with re-bodied/clipped cars and apparently from what I know, some of the country's top Pontiac restorer's/collectors don't either. Knowing what we do now about the minute differences between years - there are a few collectors of very rare Pontiacs out there who should be looking under their car covers!

Well said!

[The Boss]

Originally Posted by PonchoV8

Cowls get damaged and they make replacement VIN rivots for a reason.
If I have a common convert GTO basket case with no matching numbers, but intact title and most parts, can I remove my rusted out cowl, restore it, then combine two or more car's parts and make a driver--and still feel okay about the car?

Sure, why not? I wouldn't have a problem with buying it that way either.

[pont406]

Car looks really rusty, it would all depend on how bad it really is in person, to be the "Judge" of it. interior pics don't show if the floorpans are "gone'' or not, or if the frame is toast. being it a rare color combo and matching drivetrain, if the cowl area and frame, drivetrain, are useable,fixable, it would be worth restoration, however, at the current price you better have a good income and restoration skills to tackle this project!

[Greg Reid]

Originally Posted by Wick

That was a "I'll restore it someday, it's not for sale" car.

I was thinking almost the exact same thing except I was wondering how many times the original owner told someone "No way! I'll never sell that one! Gonna fix'er up and drive it again."
Now look at it.

Originally Posted by From the ebay question/answers

This car can be repaired, I would start with top and tail which would be by taking a tempest le mans or gto body and cut it between the windshield post, and floor, and put it on that frame, yes the build tags and vin tag is intact, and yes it does have a clear florida title.

Yeah, and then finish by taking the cowl and dash from the donor Tempest or LeMans and weld it to the top and tail that has just been removed from the same. When all welded together, remove the repaired car from the original Judge frame and put it all on the frame from the donor Tempest or Lemans.

[Tim john]

Back to the 70 in this months HPP. In the original magazine add it shows the 70 on the street with a black hood tach, black wing and the supposed original add car is restored with a body color hood tach. Am I seeing things incorrectly ? If the topic of the story is to showcase this original add car, should it not be accurate. Beautiful car none the less and I would be very pleased and proud to own it.

Tim john---

[Judge273]

Tim, Did you mean to start a new thread?? Not this ad???

[johnta1]

I think he's talking about the Polar White Judge, black spoiler/tach

[69judgera3]

Nothing wrong with a rebody....how many people buy rusted out pos cars and replace it with sheetmetal from Taiwan. So what's the difference if someone uses a lemans with original metal?

[Lidpainter]

[gregsgtos2]

I remember that fine Judge from Norwalk a couple of years ago. What a peach. And if I remember right-owner was in the 12-15k range? That car is rougher than a WEEK in jail!!! lol

[Lidpainter]

Originally Posted by gregsgtos2

I remember that fine Judge from Norwalk a couple of years ago. What a peach. And if I remember right-owner was in the 12-15k range? That car is rougher than a WEEK in jail!!! lol

I never asked the price. 12K is insane for that POS. He could have put all the good parts (VIN and trim tags) in an envelope and saved towing the rest of that sorry carcass to the swap.

[gregsgtos2]

It did have a crowd around it all day-kind of like everyone standing around a crash! I think it did have the original drive train still in it. You could look inside the trunk-what was left of it-WITHOUT opening the trunk lid.

[Lidpainter]

If I remember correctly the interior looked to be in really nice shape. If it wasn't a Judge it would have been a $500 parts car at best.

[limejudge69]

That is one rough Judge. I did see a rougher one back in the early 90's. Maybe BVZ or Bet Winner saw it. It was at Ronny Palmer's place. It had been stolen and stripped. All that was left was the firewall, dash, driver's door and floors. Still had the ram air cable hanging. It also had the trim tag still in place. Carousel Red. Sad!

[Uncle Judge]

Originally Posted by gregsgtos2

That car is rougher than a WEEK in jail!!! lol

Make that a week in PRISON!

[68MeanVerdoroGreen]

I bought this judge (from the Jersey Shore Area) and ended up stripping the few good parts from it and as hard as it was, I scrapped it. The price was right and what I removed from it was worth the price I paid.

[68MeanVerdoroGreen]

More pictures of this poor Judge.

[69judgera3]

The car I bought has had almost every piece replaced before I bought it. I wonder how bad it was

[Lidpainter]

Thanks for the pics. Makes me feel better about this POS I have in the corner of the garage.

[gregsgtos2]

From the amount of dust on it-looks like its time for you to go to work on that one.