[Rob B]

Originally Posted by johnta1

What kind of mpg?
Manual tranny?

If your referring to me, I averaged around 12 going out and 11 coming back. 6 spd manual trans. I rather deal with replacing a clutch than replacing or rebuilding a 6 spd auto down the road, plus whats a diesel if you can't shift it??? The truck only get a little over 14 empty so I thought that was pretty good considering the weight I was pulling.
Again, like all new diesels, because of all the emission BS, their mileage blows in stock form. From what I've read, seen, and heard, just a DPF and EGR delete with a reprogram will gain around 5-8mpg depending on who you believe and supposably wakes these motors up. I'll take 19-23 mpg on a 8000# truck. My 1500 gas never got better than 17 on the highway and around 14 in mixed driving.

[johnta1]

Thanks.

That's not too bad for the weight towed.

This is out of warranty now?
The tuners used to be a 'no-no' while in warranty.
Still that way?

[Rob B]

Originally Posted by johnta1

Thanks.

That's not too bad for the weight towed.

This is out of warranty now?
The tuners used to be a 'no-no' while in warranty.
Still that way?

No, still in warranty. 5yr, 100K. I'll all but void my power train warranty when I do the deletes and tune unless the issue is not related and the dealer is "friendly". The biggest issues these trucks have as well as other brands is the Emission BS that everyone deletes and reprogram to eliminate.

[455Grandville]

Originally Posted by Rob B

If your referring to me, I averaged around 12 going out and 11 coming back. 6 spd manual trans. I rather deal with replacing a clutch than replacing or rebuilding a 6 spd auto down the road, plus whats a diesel if you can't shift it??? The truck only get a little over 14 empty so I thought that was pretty good considering the weight I was pulling.
Again, like all new diesels, because of all the emission BS, their mileage blows in stock form. From what I've read, seen, and heard, just a DPF and EGR delete with a reprogram will gain around 5-8mpg depending on who you believe and supposably wakes these motors up. I'll take 19-23 mpg on a 8000# truck. My 1500 gas never got better than 17 on the highway and around 14 in mixed driving.

Many new diesel truck owners on another board were ranting about the same thing when the emission N'azis started. Even the VW's were dropping below 40 mpg which means they're not really getting ahead with the higher diesel prices.

[Wareagle]

For trucks my fav is the Dodge Ram Series - I like the Longhorn SE .

[PONTIAC-ONE]

GMC...

I always thought they look better than the Chev, kinda like the Firebird vs Camaro.

[Alvin]

Originally Posted by PONTIAC-ONE

GMC...

I always thought they look better than the Chev, kinda like the Firebird vs Camaro.

I agree with that on the current models for sure. GMC looks good.

[CDN2PLS2]

KTA= What a Brute!

[pont3]

I don't really think any of the D3 has enough positives over the others to be labelled "best". Just depends on what your PERSONAL desires are and where your loyalty lies. Personally, I'll still take a GM or Ford over Dodge, however, I think the NEW Dodges are no less capable than either Ford or GM. I still have a problem with SIXTEEN spark plugs in a V8 engine, though. And I've witnessed enough problems with higher mileage Hemis that I won't go near them.

Interior appointments appeals primarily to those who don't really use the truck as a TRUCK, and while important to some, does nothing to quantify those qualities that meet the criterior for which the truck was designed.

Bottom line is that all the truck makers use primarily the same suppliers for certain parts and the success or failure rate of those parts will be the same regardless of make. So buy what you like and you'll most likely be satisfied with it. They're all good now. But check out the 2014 GM trucks and you'll find that they've taken it up a notch or two.

[Jim Zeek]

gmc should have also been listed

[Brian Baker]

Originally Posted by Jim Zeek

gmc should have also been listed

But, isn't GMC the saem truck as a Chevy, only with different trim?

I know when I bought both of my GMC trucks in '89 and '92, and even the '99 I own now, the Chevy trucks were being built by GMC truck division of General Motors at that time. Has anything changed?

[77 Canamman]

I just bought a brand new 2013 Sierra 1500 extended cab Z71 4X4 with the 5.3 and 6 sp. AT. I love it. I am very pleased with it's initial quality, drivability, and power. I looked at the 2014's, and did not like that they did away with the suicide rear doors on the extended cab, the dramatic rise in price, and the styling, which does nothing for me.

[Bob Hall]

Originally Posted by 77 Canamman

I just bought a brand new 2013 Sierra 1500 extended cab Z71 4X4 with the 5.3 and 6 sp. AT. I love it. I am very pleased with it's initial quality, drivability, and power. I looked at the 2014's, and did not like that they did away with the suicide rear doors on the extended cab, the dramatic rise in price, and the styling, which does nothing for me.

Are the extended cabs on the lots yet up there. At the local dealers here, its just the 4 doors.

[77 Canamman]

Originally Posted by Bob Hall

Are the extended cabs on the lots yet up there. At the local dealers here, its just the 4 doors.

There are not a lot of them left. There were 6, and they are going fast. They discounted it over $11k. Got a $40k truck for high $28k.

[Bob Hall]

Originally Posted by 77 Canamman

There are not a lot of them left. There were 6, and they are going fast. They discounted it over $11k. Got a $40k truck for high $28k.

Oh, I meant 2014s.
Hopefully you get better fuel mileage than I do in my 2011 Ext. Cab 5.3 6-spd Z85 setup.
http://forums.maxperformanceinc.com/...2&postcount=14

[455Grandville]

Originally Posted by 77 Canamman

I just bought a brand new 2013 Sierra 1500 extended cab Z71 4X4 with the 5.3 and 6 sp. AT. I love it. I am very pleased with it's initial quality, drivability, and power. I looked at the 2014's, and did not like that they did away with the suicide rear doors on the extended cab, the dramatic rise in price, and the styling, which does nothing for me.

Is that an aluminum block in the new trucks ? Guy at work just bought one and said his was -

[77 Canamman]

Originally Posted by 455Grandville

Is that an aluminum block in the new trucks ? Guy at work just bought one and said his was -

Yes. It has the AFM, and it is getting disabled.

[77 Canamman]

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