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Old 06-17-2013, 10:14 AM
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Do you have a part number for the NAPA $79 compressor. Their website prices start at $249.

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Old 06-16-2013, 07:15 PM
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I also would be interested in seeing what the Buick shroud looks like. I saw one for a Corvette, but question where their electrical connector plugs in compared to the firebird, and whether it would interfere without some modifications.

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I also would be interested in seeing what the Buick shroud looks like. I saw one for a Corvette, but question where their electrical connector plugs in compared to the firebird, and whether it would interfere without some modifications.
Previous owner of my old '72 455HO GTO installed the Buick shield on it. Even though incorrect for my car, I left it on there when I detailed the engine bay 'cause it SURE helps keep the compressor front seal oil from coating the hood, but unfortunately it doesn't protect the inner fender, etc.
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Previous owner of my old '72 455HO GTO installed the Buick shield on it. Even though incorrect for my car, I left it on there when I detailed the engine bay 'cause it SURE helps keep the compressor front seal oil from coating the hood, but unfortunately it doesn't protect the inner fender, etc.
I was thinking about that also. When mine was leaking, it was all over the inner fender, and dripping on the ground.

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Took the daughter out on another driving lesson. She did much better. This time it was rabbits. On our 20 mile drive, four different bunnies (well, maybe it could have been the same rabbit stalking us) ran alongside us and then tried to dart out in front of the car.

We even tempted fate and drove past a local ranch where they raise bison and cattle. I fully expected Alex Karris A.K.A. "Mongo" to be blocking the road riding on the back of a Brahma Bull.
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'nother one.....?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1968-77-Olds...5fbd02&vxp=mtr

Sounds like this one is a "knock off" of the Olds version...

As I recall,the Buick one is quite different.....more like the "chinese" camero one..

If 2 different GM divisions made a shield,there MUST have been leakage issues....from day one...

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Restoration Specialties

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Good call! I think this is the one:

http://stores.restorationspecialties...%29/Detail.bok

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Good example of why this forum is so popular!

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My daughter recently asked for lessons on how to drive a manual transmission. Today was the day for the "road test."

It was a rather hysterical time. It was as if Mel Brooks directed the whole thing. Everywhere we went some strange animal would pop out. It included two completely unrelated flocks of turkeys with a dozen chicks, deer that climbed up trees, groundhogs, flying squirrels, blind joggers, and a dead skunk.

She actually did very well, only stalled a couple times, and remembered to press in the clutch when she got to a stop, most of the time.

Now it's time to go take the car apart and replace the clutch, again.

Here's a shot of one of the turkey flocks impeding her travel and forcing a down shift.
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I spoke to the guys at Restoration Specialties and they commented that I had the clips installed wrong. The attached wire is supposed to be bent back upon itself to serve as a retaining spring. Once you do that, the shiny replacement clip does in fact work properly. I bought 30 of them and the accompanying nuts.


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Those clips.....or ones so close I can't tell the difference.....are also used on some 70's Fords for retaining body trim strips.

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They had a bazillion different clips at Restoration Specialties. I was glad I sent them the photos and the guy then rattled off the exact part number off the top of his head. He said that he had a couple of the original green ones left but not nearly enough as I needed for the car.

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Steve:

I've had rabbits do that to me for years driving around on our hunting land early in the morning while it is still dark. They will run ahead of my truck darting back and forth across the road and I have yet to run over one. They always seem to get out of the way in the nick of time. But it can be very frustrating, especially to a 15 year old learning how to drive!

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made me think of this!! lol your daughter may even like it!
Geico Car Insurance Squirrel Commercial
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=40kPEjZpM8M

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Never mind the squirrels & rabbits.......it's the deer you need to watch out for....

My favorite "upcountry" stretch of road follows a winding river for about 15 miles & early one evening in late May,I must have had at least 8 of them bound across the road in front of me...and not all at once...

Nothing worse than "bambi dents" in your hood, fender, bumper,etc.

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Steve,
If you really want a good obstacle course for your daughter during her learn how to drive a manual lessons, take the car into New York City when you go next weekend!!!! Not only will you have to worry about errant humans walking out in front of the car, she will get to learn real fast reaction times with the thousands of yellow taxis darting from lane to lane not worrying about using their turn signals and basically just driving around with their head up their a**es!!!
When I take the Truck into the city people always ask me if I worry about taxis hitting me, and I tell them they finally realize that an 80,000 lb semi is going to win if we do happen to have a meeting and they always seem to make a last minute decision to stay in their lane..
Hope you guys all have fun next weekend in the City.
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Oh Hell No! That's like driving onto the set of Walking Dead or World War Z...
Though Walking Dead is our favorite family show. For her last birthday she wanted a zombie killing tool so I gave her a vintage WWII entrenching tool, complete with USMC belt pouch. This is the folding, shovel-looking contraption with the additional pick axe on the opposite side.

She is a chip off the old block. :-)

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Thanks to Tom (Tom406) and Rick (SS427) and the "Pay It Forward" classified section at the Yenko.net site, where I have a sister thread to this one, I have a nice, date code correct 5470409 Delco dual bleeder, master cylinder that just happened to come off of another 1972 Firebird.

http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/ubbt...der#Post531958

I took it apart and tried honing it myself but the bore was a bit too pitted. I ended up sending it to Whitepost Restorations to have it sleeved. It was $175. It took about a week. I got it yesterday and I installed it today.

It was not an uneventful day.

They say timing is everything. When I took the repro dual bleeder master cylinder off I noticed that the rear reservoir was rather low. Very strange since not a lot leaked out when I removed it. I didn't think much of it at the time. I then bench-bled the new master cylinder and installed it. I then bled all the brakes. Twice, starting at the farthest rear cylinder. I had the car on jack stands so I could get to everything and eventually do a running test.

I started the car to check the brakes with the wheels spinning. I put it in gear. I then stepped on the brakes and the rear wheels kept spinning - no braking at all. Very strange since I just bled the brakes and I thought I bled them enough. The front brakes were holding tight but the rears were not doing much of anything. I bled the rears again and then they worked properly...for a few minutes.

I went and refilled the master cylinder and then tested the brakes again...no rear brakes. Really, very strange now. I thought maybe it was the combination/metering valve had activated but the pin was in the correct neutral position.

So I pulled the rear wheels and the drums and saw that the driver's side rear wheel cylinder had just started leaking inside the drum. Great timing for a complete failure! Luckily the autoparts store was open and had a pair of rear wheel, brake cylinders in stock so I threw them on and everything works fine now.



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I finally found an R12 recovery machine so I didn't have to waste the 60 ounces of Freon in order to replace the oil-spraying compressor. I found this Rotunda Ford machine on Craigslist 30 miles from my home for $80. It actually works!

It came without any instructions so I hunted and all I could initially find was the EPA reference listing the R12 recovery units approved by the EPA for 1992. So I pulled the side panels off and found that there was a Murray part number, which ended up being a Sun part number originally sold by Snap-On, which lead me to the Snap-On Tech Assistance hotline. I called them and the tech guy was actually quite surprised when he found the 24-page instruction manual on file. He emailed it to me and I was back in business.

The good news was that the contraption was able to fully download all the R12. The bad news was that until the tank gets filled with 5 pounds of R12, it won't allow you to refill from the tank. You can manually route the tank to your car's system but I decided against that and ended up using some spare cans of R12.




BTW, I went to Advanceautoparts.com and ordered a remanufactured A6 compressor. Before hitting the check out button, I always google the phrase "advanceautoparts coupons". I lucked out this time and found a $50 off a $125 purchase coupon. The compressor was $139 minus the $50, which brought it to $89 with free shipping!

Despite the spewing oil, the system never lost any R12 and was putting out 39 degree air right before we drained it. I installed the new compressor and we vacuumed down the system, installed the R12 and the car is pumping out 37 degree air now.




The compressor that was in the car was a new compressor (25 years ago) when the car was put into storage. It turned out that the front bearing had too much play (you could rock the clutch hub side to side about 1/32"). So the wobbling probably took out the seal.

Now I am just waiting for the new compressor decal to arrive and she will be looking good as old.

An added bonus now is that the belts no longer squeal under acceleration from the oil that was getting sprayed on them. Ah, the little pleasures in life...

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