[Gaby Labiosa]

As I stated before. EIC Motorsports has NEVER charged any more than $4000-7000 porting labor for a Pontiac induction system capable of 1000+hp.

More importantly, EIC customers are usually people who look for results rather than price as their first priority.

While we may have quotes that end up considerably more than the porting labor itself, it is simply because of a customer's request for added support parts to complement the induction system and/or engine. Such as cylinder head/manifold castings, camshaft, converter, even roller lifters.

These parts, as you well may know cost the same for any platform.

Also, what you may not know. This 1000+ hp Pontiac stuff is NOT commonplace as the internet may make you think. It is EXPENSIVE, and not just an induction package and/or engine will get it done.

If anyone does not think 10-15K top ends (including all new parts) and 25-30K motors (from scratch) are what's required at this level, then they better not even think about getting involved.



As far as a WAR continuing, I didn't know there was one at all. We have not "carved" out this market, simply just produced results and have gone above and beyond expectations. It is simply a cause and effect, you prove it at the track and people call!! That is just how I try to run my business.

Don't you have to be in the game to be in a war??

You can "win" this internet "war". I prefer to always try and kick everyone's butt in real life at the racetrack, and continue to build a good company that's capable of meeting the needs of any professional or high end sportsman racer.

I think EIC has proven that.


P.S. GreatGTO is 100% correct. The high hp Pontiac is not a money making market!!

[twinturrbo406]

Originally Posted by Gaby Labiosa

As I stated before. EIC Motorsports has NEVER charged any more than $4000-7000 porting labor for a Pontiac induction system capable of 1000+hp.

More importantly, EIC customers are usually people who look for results rather than price as their first priority.

While we may have quotes that end up considerably more than the porting labor itself, it is simply because of a customer's request for added support parts to complement the induction system and/or engine. Such as cylinder head/manifold castings, camshaft, converter, even roller lifters.

These parts, as you well may know cost the same for any platform.

Also, what you may not know. This 1000+ hp Pontiac stuff is NOT commonplace as the internet may make you think. It is EXPENSIVE, and not just an induction package and/or engine will get it done.

If anyone does not think 10-15K top ends (including all new parts) and 25-30K motors (from scratch) are what's required at this level, then they better not even think about getting involved.



As far as a WAR continuing, I didn't know there was one at all. We have not "carved" out this market, simply just produced results and have gone above and beyond expectations. It is simply a cause and effect, you prove it at the track and people call!! That is just how I try to run my business.

Don't you have to be in the game to be in a war??

You can "win" this internet "war". I prefer to always try and kick everyone's butt in real life at the racetrack, and continue to build a good company that's capable of meeting the needs of any professional or high end sportsman racer.

I think EIC has proven that.


P.S. GreatGTO is 100% correct. The high hp Pontiac is not a money making market!!

... ok, nice "REPEAT POST" Gaby, but even you are missing my point here, so i will repeat, i'm not challenging you or anything remotely close to that Gaby, heck, in fact i complimented you for Christ sakes, and you are still going with the "DisCredit" or "Slam" approach towards me ?? ... so, whatever Gaby, keep swingin', i can take it ...

... but all that crap is completely 100% irrelevent here, because all i'm doing is setting the record straight about the ridiculous comparisons that your boys have made repeatedly, for a ridiculously long time concerning their heads and CV-1's ...

... because there is not a single CV-1 customer on the planet that has anywhere near that level (well over $12K) of investment in their CV-1's, in fact the two guys that are CV-1/RacePlate customers have about half of that amount in their heads, which those cars are still under construction ...

... so if they want to continue those games, well then so will i, only this time people will know what is really being compared, because regardless of what they actually paid, by your words it takes over $12K to duplicate a set ...

... and WreckMaster & Lil' Jack, dont sell yourselves short at only 10K, those heads are worth (WELL OVER $12K) !!!!

"Happy 2013 !!!!!"

[LiL Jack]

Originally Posted by twinturrbo406

... ok, nice "REPEAT POST" Gaby, but even you are missing my point here, so i will repeat, i'm not challenging you or anything remotely close to that Gaby, heck, in fact i complimented you for Christ sakes, and you are still going with the "DisCredit" or "Slam" approach towards me ?? ... so, whatever Gaby, keep swingin', i can take it ...

... but all that crap is completely 100% irrelevent here, because all i'm doing is setting the record straight about the ridiculous comparisons that your boys have made repeatedly, for a ridiculously long time concerning their heads and CV-1's ...

... because there is not a single CV-1 customer on the planet that has anywhere near that level (well over $12K) of investment in their CV-1's, in fact the two guys that are CV-1/RacePlate customers have about half of that amount in their heads, which those cars are still under construction ...

... so if they want to continue those games, well then so will i, only this time people will know what is really being compared, because regardless of what they actually paid, by your words it takes over $12K to duplicate a set ...

... and WreckMaster & Lil' Jack, dont sell yourselves short at only 10K, those heads are worth (WELL OVER $12K) !!!!

"Happy 2013 !!!!!"

I DID NOT PAY 12 GRAND FOR MY HEADS!

I paid $11,900 for my whole motor.

I know what Wrekmaster paid for his heads (which are better) and bad azz sheet metal intake and it was under $10K.

It doesn't cost it pays to use Gaby in my honest opinion! I told him I wanted to go 7s and he said he could make it happen, and he explained to me what it would take to get there, and he delivered.

That was some of the best money I ever spent!

[twinturrbo406]

[QUOTE=Gaby Labiosa;4818444]As I stated before. EIC Motorsports has NEVER charged any more than $4000-7000 porting labor for a Pontiac induction system capable of 1000+hp.

Also, what you may not know. This 1000+ hp Pontiac stuff is NOT commonplace as the internet may make you think. It is EXPENSIVE, and not just an induction package and/or engine will get it done.

If anyone does not think 10-15K top ends (including all new parts) and 25-30K motors (from scratch) are what's required at this level, then they better not even think about getting involved.



... you need to read this again Dan ... and anyone else that doesnt want to believe it ... his words, not mine ...

[Daniel Barton]

[QUOTE=twinturrbo406;4820671]

Originally Posted by Gaby Labiosa

As I stated before. EIC Motorsports has NEVER charged any more than $4000-7000 porting labor for a Pontiac induction system capable of 1000+hp.

Also, what you may not know. This 1000+ hp Pontiac stuff is NOT commonplace as the internet may make you think. It is EXPENSIVE, and not just an induction package and/or engine will get it done.

If anyone does not think 10-15K top ends (including all new parts) and 25-30K motors (from scratch) are what's required at this level, then they better not even think about getting involved.



... you need to read this again Dan ... and anyone else that doesnt want to believe it ... his words, not mine ...

You need to read it again, 4-7k labor for entire induction system, again... you said level of work to the heads, correct? 4-7k labor to entire induction is more then just labor(work) to the heads. 10-15k top end(including all new parts) is A LOT of parts! Again, not what you stated now is it? You are mistaken here, like I said, I have the quote, It is a little over 3000.00 in work(labor) to the heads which is what you are saying is over 12000.00. Your numbers do not add up because it simpley is'nt true!

[Ron H]

[QUOTE=twinturrbo406;4820671]

Originally Posted by Gaby Labiosa

As I stated before. EIC Motorsports has NEVER charged any more than $4000-7000 porting labor for a Pontiac induction system capable of 1000+hp.

Also, what you may not know. This 1000+ hp Pontiac stuff is NOT commonplace as the internet may make you think. It is EXPENSIVE, and not just an induction package and/or engine will get it done.

If anyone does not think 10-15K top ends (including all new parts) and 25-30K motors (from scratch) are what's required at this level, then they better not even think about getting involved.



... you need to read this again Dan ... and anyone else that doesnt want to believe it ... his words, not mine ...

You twist around worse than Obama. What is wrong with what he said? It is true...

Yet for some reason you think Gaby should not be able to charge 12 grand or more for what he is selling? Is there something wrong with that?

Damn you are a hypocrite Bill. I bet you would charge 5000 to port a CV-1 top end to make 1000+ HP if you could do it.

[GREATGTO]

I'll make a prediction, it wont take 12k worth of cv1 heads and intake work to run in the 7's

Hell you can have warp 6 heads for a little more why bother with eheads for 12k, doesn't really matter, I'm sure Gaby would be first to admit he doesn't make a living porting pontiac eheads

[LiL Jack]

Originally Posted by GREATGTO

I'll make a prediction, it wont take 12k worth of cv1 heads and intake work to run in the 7's

Hell you can have warp 6 heads for a little more why bother with eheads for 12k, doesn't really matter, I'm sure Gaby would be first to admit he doesn't make a living porting pontiac eheads

Do you think a CV1 car will ever get in the 7s? I mean at over 3400#s?

Slowbird said it was 3300+ pounds, it was at Norwalk, but King Kinsler took the weight out for Ultra Street and was at 3250 #s. Just wanted to get it straight.

BTW, there were no CV1 cars in Ultra Street this year. Just sayn....

[Jeff Kinsler]

Originally Posted by LiL Jack

Do you think a CV1 car will ever get in the 7s? I mean at over 3400#s?

No. Ain't going to happen... Not a chance.. Not slamming the head but it ain't going to happen NA.

[slowbird]

Originally Posted by GREATGTO

I'll make a prediction, it wont take 12k worth of cv1 heads and intake work to run in the 7's

Hell you can have warp 6 heads for a little more why bother with eheads for 12k, doesn't really matter, I'm sure Gaby would be first to admit he doesn't make a living porting pontiac eheads

I assume you are talking a power adder combo that'll go 7's, correct?
By the way the Warp 6 will cost you WAY more than 12k!!

[twinturrbo406]

[QUOTE=GREATGTO;4818421]I'll make a prediction, it wont take 12k worth of cv1 heads and intake work to run in the 7's{Quote}


... well, you more right then you think, because Robin's car is already making the power (174+mph) to run a solid 7 sec. ET, he just cant put it down with his previous chassis set up, but Robin is working to correct that condition ...

... and his numbers are not in mine shaft air either, his 8.13 happened in Arizona, which is mostly desert territory ...

... and Robin's wonderfully ported Hill Performance CV-1's dont cost anywhere near $12K, and with a stock hood clearing manifold to boot ...

[Gaby Labiosa]

I'm done posting. Anyone that has any questions can call me or email.

Happy New years everyone!

[mike leech]

Originally Posted by Gaby Labiosa

I'm done posting. Anyone that has any questions can call me or email.

Happy New years everyone!

see you at norwalk. You dont need to post any more about this. I really hope someone calls you because of this thread....and you make a couple of buck at it.

[60man]

Originally Posted by Gaby Labiosa

I'm done posting. Anyone that has any questions can call me or email.

Happy New years everyone!

Back at ya Gaby.
Happy New Year.

[GTO Dan]

Originally Posted by Gaby Labiosa

I'm done posting. Anyone that has any questions can call me or email.

Happy New years everyone!

You Sir are a class act. I wish you continued success and expect to do business with you in the future.

Happy New Year.

[Jim Zeek]

Originally Posted by GTO Dan

You Sir are a class act. I wish you continued success and expect to do business with you in the future.

Happy New Year.

ditto

[LiL Jack]

Someone send me a check for $10K and I will sell them my E-heads! LOL

[wreckmastr]

Originally Posted by LiL Jack

Someone send me a check for $10K and I will sell them my E-heads! LOL

LOL .......They could have my heads AND intake for $10K!!

[LiL Jack]

Originally Posted by wreckmastr

LOL .......They could have my heads AND intake for $10K!!

I would put your intake in my living room under a lighted glass inclosure it is gorgeous!

[Jim Zeek]

when a cv head does what jack and jeff have done then come back and start your comparing. until then quit your damn whining. worse than a bunch of girls. unless you were the one who personally spoke to Gaby or someone at his shop don't go throwing numbers around you heard second hand.