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You can't learn anything just driving around making laps that far off the pace. [quoteI tried to find a stat but couldn't. In the modern era how many Pole winners have actually won a 125 race? Or been in the top ten? Seems like a lot of them dropped way back in the duals.[/QUOTE] FWIW - it's a 150 mile race now... ![]() Without knowing for sure what you consider the "modern era" - I'll just list all of the drivers that started on the pole and won the race - there aren't all that many... The first pole winner to win the 500 was Fireball Roberts in a Pontiac in 1962. Richard Petty did it in a Plymouth in 1966. Cale Yarborough in a Mercury in 1968 and in a Chevrolet in 1984. Bill Elliot in a Ford in 1985 and 1987. Jeff Gordon in a Chevrolet in 1999. Dale Jarrett in a Ford in 2000. In 2004, Greg Biffle won the pole but changed an engine. Dale Jr. then started from the pole and won the race in a Chevrolet. One thing to note - rookie pole winner best finish is 22nd (Loy Allen jr.)... |
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![]() Without knowing for sure what you consider the "modern era" - I'll just list all of the drivers that started on the pole and won the race - there aren't all that many... The first pole winner to win the 500 was Fireball Roberts in a Pontiac in 1962. Richard Petty did it in a Plymouth in 1966. Cale Yarborough in a Mercury in 1968 and in a Chevrolet in 1984. Bill Elliot in a Ford in 1985 and 1987. Jeff Gordon in a Chevrolet in 1999. Dale Jarrett in a Ford in 2000. In 2004, Greg Biffle won the pole but changed an engine. Dale Jr. then started from the pole and won the race in a Chevrolet. One thing to note - rookie pole winner best finish is 22nd (Loy Allen jr.)...[/QUOTE] Well said about wanica, also whatever happend to Loy Allen Jr
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Loy Allen Jr. had a 6 year career in the Cup Series and his only real claim to fame was winning the pole for the 1994 Daytona 500. He did win 2 other poles.
In 48 Cup Starts he had 1 Top Ten, 3 Poles, 30.0 Average Finish and failed to qualify 29 times... |
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Nationwide.
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That picture is a classic!
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Thanks guys...
![]() In the words of my brother in law (former racer - may he rest in peace), if Danica didn't drive so slow, that little girl wouldn't have hit her in the rear...
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Nothing to say now champ? I think she did pretty good today.
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And that would be your own opinion. Some people like to believe all the hype.
Danica didn't race yesterday, she played a game of follow the leader. When it came time to race, she either didn't have the talent or the courage to race (I'm thinking she didn't have either). As already noted - she said she was afraid if she made a move that she'd be hung out to dry... It's her own fault that she failed to finish 3rd or better. If she had actually raced last Thursday and built some confidence in her own abilities and proved to the other drivers that she could draft she might have had a different result. Jr. was right there - a fellow Chevy driver - to push her if she had the guts to go. Jr. is her car owner in the Nationwide Series - you know he would have helped her. It would have made him money by being able to cash in on her success when negotiating future sponsorship deals. Jr. got tired of waiting for the Princess to go and went by himself. He finished 2nd and Wanica finished 8th. |
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It appeared her goal was to just finish the race and prove that she could with a good finishing position rather than winning the race. If she was going for the win, she would have taken a shot at it on the last lap and wherever she ended up in the final running order, if she didn't take the lead, wouldn't really be important points wise. What are the chances of her really making the chase???
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74 GTO Bracket/Street car and another 74 for the wifey to race with! 70 GTO 400, 4 spd, #'s matching and a little to nice for me to own. Friendship is like peeing your pants..everyone can see it but only you can feel the warmth! |
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Somewhere between zero and none.
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It amazes me how armchair racers know what someone should do or should not do in a race. Until you're out there in the mix give her a break. She doesn't call the shots, the spotters and the crew in the pits do. A least she didn't wreck or blow up the engine.
Look at it this way...she racing and you're not. Now why is that?
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She did good. I thought Danica/Biffle/Dale Jr let Johnson go too long without making a move.
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Should have made the move with 2 to go. But a top ten at Daytona is great.
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I don't know what to think about her performance. To me, it looked like she was in it for the ride, not racing to win. And, she needs to work on her pit exits.
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NASCAR viewership had to be at an all-time high today with Danica in it to the end.
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Dave "Big Injun" Anderson [email protected] www.4mypontiac.com For GTO Celebration items click the tile coaster.
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Don't follow Nascar much but it would seem to me she did well.
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She did well...but I think Dale Jr. got tired of waiting for her to pull out so he blew by her and got second....he could have been pushing her butt past Jimmy !!!
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ECM member. 2008 Outlaw Pontiac Drag Series Champion MANDRA Do it now fool! Life is short. 69 Grand Prix/3163lbs / IAII 535 w/ Tiger heads by Gaydosh....9.35@ 144 so far.. through mufflers. 1.26 60'. Going back to track with pump gas engine.... My 60 Ventura retired to street/strip duty.. |
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