[Held for Ransom]

Originally Posted by 67GTONUT

Lost a lot of respect tonight for NASCAR..... what a shame

What took you so long?

[67GTONUT]

I havent been to a race in a few years......

But if that is true............. I stand corrected. I still dont get it though.......

[67GTONUT]

Originally Posted by Held for Ransom

What took you so long?

LOL..... I still really enjoy the sport..... I admit it ....

[MikeNoun]

Originally Posted by David Holmberg

Dennis, a friend that is there just texted me and said. "When they announced her name there was Boo's everywhere, then the music came on louder and there were cheers playing over the speakers". There were a few yelling for her, but the majority were against her.

Its just like WWE, you have to have the bad guys (Busch brothers), good guys (Johnson, Edwards) and a damsel in distress...

Wow, that about sums it up. Like politics, these people (NASCAR) can fabricate any outcome, change votes, whatever it takes, because the ends justifies the means. With Danica in it, NASCAR stands to sell millions of dollars of merchandise, there will be heavy promotion on all the websites, and of course NASCAR-paid bloggers, so it's a win-win for them.

I have a relative that only casually follows auto racing. In other words, he gets the ESPN updates, reads slanted Danica hype, has never watched a race in his life, etc. I reminded him that she's only won 1 race, to which he said that was wrong, she's won "at least 4", and that "she's a groundbreaker, there's never been another female in NASCAR."

And that, my friends, is from the type of person that thinks some karaoke singer who makes it to the final rounds of American Idol is just as good as Led Zeppelin, because the American Idol contestant sold more records.

Welcome to America.

[Alvin]

Originally Posted by tom s

Does anyone here actually go to a Cup race?Ever since she has been in NASCAR her trailer is by far the busyest!I walk through and just look at the lines of people,men women and kids buyer her stuff.You can all hate it but the fans that go to the track shell out good hard cash for her stuff.Oh,maybe NASCAR is giving ordinary people money to line up and buy the stuff.Quick look up you will all see the black helicopters!LOL

That's funny Tom..did you park your boat at this race too?

Hey if no-brains waiting in a long line is your measure of success that's your prerogative. Each to their own.

Like I've posted BF don't hate her, just not into the ephemeral champion hype by this less than average driver.
You've posted in the past that you're into drag racing.
I'd like to hear what a woman champion driver Shirley Muldowney would have to say about this hype. No doubt in my mind Shirley would call it BS.

Enjoy!

[Alvin]

Originally Posted by Held for Ransom

What took you so long?

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[Alvin]

Originally Posted by MikeNoun

Wow, that about sums it up. Like politics, these people (NASCAR) can fabricate any outcome, change votes, whatever it takes, because the ends justifies the means. With Danica in it, NASCAR stands to sell millions of dollars of merchandise, there will be heavy promotion on all the websites, and of course NASCAR-paid bloggers, so it's a win-win for them.

I have a relative that only casually follows auto racing. In other words, he gets the ESPN updates, reads slanted Danica hype, has never watched a race in his life, etc. I reminded him that she's only won 1 race, to which he said that was wrong, she's won "at least 4", and that "she's a groundbreaker, there's never been another female in NASCAR."

And that, my friends, is from the type of person that thinks some karaoke singer who makes it to the final rounds of American Idol is just as good as Led Zeppelin, because the American Idol contestant sold more records.

Welcome to America.

Agreed. And from the FWIW Dept. - wonder how many others are like our household; self imposed NASCAR blackout, especially for this bogus "All-star" race? Who really cares about this race? Not me.

Thing is you will never know the reality of the ratings, sales, etc. as it will be advertised as a phenomenal success even if the net results were a loss.

Welcome!

[tom s]

There is some great racing going on right now!Tom

[David Holmberg]

Originally Posted by tom s

There is some great racing going on right now!Tom

Yes there was!

In all honesty, I give Kurt and the 78 team a lot of respect for what they do with very limited resources. Jimmy had too much Jimmy tonight, and it showed.

[cuz68]

Originally Posted by David Holmberg

Mr. Sargent, you can put lipstick on a duck, but it's still a duck.
(That picture was professionally done, with lots of touch ups and artificial hip placement)

I agree 100% with your picture of Jennifer Jo Cobb, much better body.

Brad, I wish we had a like button. I think I'll work on getting on added.

David you are not trying to hit on Brad are you? I dont think he looks like that 12 year old boy that you keep on posting? You steped in to this one. Your friend Randy.

[cuz68]

Originally Posted by Alvin

Agreed. And from the FWIW Dept. - wonder how many others are like our household; self imposed NASCAR blackout, especially for this bogus "All-star" race? Who really cares about this race? Not me.

Thing is you will never know the reality of the ratings, sales, etc. as it will be advertised as a phenomenal success even if the net results were a loss.

Welcome!

If you dont care about nascar, Tell me one thing, Why do you keep posting on this thread?

[David Holmberg]

Randy, it's just a Facebook term.

[Alvin]

Originally Posted by cuz68

If you dont care about nascar, Tell me one thing, Why do you keep posting on this thread?

It's my prerogative. Now go back to sleep.

[Alvin]

Originally Posted by tom s

There is some great racing going on right now!Tom

And although I may disagree from time to time with him, this thread will tell you about what Tom is all about. Kudos to him.

http://forums.maxperformanceinc.com/...d.php?t=727262

BTT

[The Champ]

Originally Posted by tom s

Does anyone here actually go to a Cup race?Ever since she has been in NASCAR her trailer is by far the busyest!I walk through and just look at the lines of people,men women and kids buyer her stuff.You can all hate it but the fans that go to the track shell out good hard cash for her stuff.Oh,maybe NASCAR is giving ordinary people money to line up and buy the stuff.Quick look up you will all see the black helicopters!LOL

Tom

I've been to plenty of NASCAR races, since 1993. Since Danica started racing in NASCAR, I've been to Phoenix, Martinsville and Charlotte. Going to Kansas this fall.

The biggest lines aren't at Danica's trailers - go and check out the Dale Jr. trailer. It's not even close.

Basically you see a lot of little girls wearing Danica shirts, several fat chicks, a few good looking girls and some guys that are trying to be secure in their feminine masculinity.

Real race fans follow talented drivers. Danica is not a talented driver.

After Keselowski dropped out with a bad tranny after a few laps in the first segment leaving only 21 drivers in the All Star race, she finished 21st, 21st, 21st and 20th in segments 1 - 4.

That tells me everything I need to know about her as a driver...

And on a separate note - put me on the list that doesn't consider Danica that attractive. I don't understand how some people think she is "hot".

[The Champ]

Originally Posted by cuz68

If you dont care about nascar, Tell me one thing, Why do you keep posting on this thread?

Well, Alvin obviously likes racing and he can't get much discussion on the Aussie V8 Supercars...

http://forums.maxperformanceinc.com/...=1#post4929849

NASCAR blows the Supercars away as far as fan interest.

[Alvin]

Sure 'Nuff...see my reply there.

To the positive this event is now on our bucket list: http://forums.maxperformanceinc.com/...d.php?t=728078

Note the variety of make, model, class etc. of those cars.

Edit: Found this BTT per the OP

[Alvin]

Originally Posted by David Holmberg

Jennifer Jo Cobb's hauler was stolen this week and almost no media attention was given. Jennifer is a racer and runs mid pack with no cameras.

I was always a Shirley Muldowney fan, loved it when Angelle kicked butt in PSM, same with Erica.

The difference is, they deserved the attention, and probably more.
I guess I'm just old school and hate it when some tries to piss on my foot and tell me it's raining...

Yes...and what do suppose theses t-shirts are referring to?

[The Champ]

Originally Posted by Alvin

Sure 'Nuff...see my reply there.

So if you find Aussie Supercars boring as you stated below on the Supercar thread, and you have a self imposed ban on NASCAR, what type of racing do you like???

I'll have to attend a live event to see if I'm interested more than the broadcast generated for me. Translation: Boring.

I find it interesting that despite all the posters that say Aussie SuperCars are more "stock" than NASCAR, LeighP, who lives in Australia counters that claim.

Originally Posted by LeighP

Mind you, these cars bear NO actual resemblance (except visually) with any production car at all.....which is a downer for me. I like production touring car racing.

As to Sonoma:

Originally Posted by Alvin

To the positive this event is now on our bucket list:

Sonoma is one of the few NASCAR tracks that my wife and I haven't attended yet. It will happen soon. The list is getting shorter with our plans to go to Kansas in October - only leaves Sonoma, Watkins Glen, New Hampshire, Pocono and Kentucky.

[Alvin]

Whatever I like at the time, is what I like...CWTS @ times...Sonoma, High Banked Tri-Ovals, et al