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Old 07-10-2013, 06:30 PM
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After a few months of discussions. I am back in a Judge. Very excited. More to come.

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Old 07-10-2013, 06:53 PM
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Looking forward to it.
Sounds great!

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Old 07-10-2013, 08:39 PM
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Sweet!

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Old 07-11-2013, 07:33 AM
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Come on - spill!

Congratulations!

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Old 07-11-2013, 07:37 AM
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That car sure looks nice!

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Sounds Great

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Old 07-12-2013, 04:31 PM
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Looks and sounds great! RA4 car, by chance?

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Old 07-12-2013, 05:39 PM
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Yes it is a RAIV 4 speed. I am the third owner. Last owner had it for 20 plus years

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Old 07-13-2013, 12:52 AM
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was it the one in Dallas,, that was a very nice car....

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Old 07-25-2013, 08:25 PM
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It was sold new out of Kole Pontiac in IL. That is a 1970 IL plate. I contacted the previous owner about 15 years ago and inquired about the Judge to see if he would be willing to sell it to me. He emailed me this past December, but had my previous employers email address. I received a phone call from my old boss and he stated I have some information that may be of interest to you. So he forwarded the email from the Judges prior owner and after an email and some lengthy phone calls and a trip to Canada, I now own the Judge. Atoll blue is my favorite color on a Judge. The pink, blue and orange stripes just look perfect against Atoll blue.

The Judge went from Illinois to California. Either the original owner was transferred due to their job or moved to California for a fresh start. The Judge was then sold to a dealer and that is who the person I bought it from purchased it from. It had 39,000 miles and still wore it's original paint and still had a Kole Pontiac trunk decal on the deck lid. In fact the person I got it from said if he would have known how desirable survivor type cars would be , he would have left it alone. It has it's original sheet metal and just one very nice repaint. All original interior except for the dash. It now has 56,000 miles on it as the prior owner drove it and never trailered it to any shows. He went through and rebuilt the engine trans and rear and enjoyed this car. It's not perfect and needs some detailing but it's all there. It has it's born with trans and rear as well as the correct carb, alt, ram air starter, radiator, etc. The engine is a correct and date coded WW block with correct and date coded heads and intake. The block has a VIN on it and I ran that VIN through PHS and Vintage Vehicle Services and both report that that either that VIN does not exist or their records do not go that low. That is a mystery as all machining marks are factory as are all stampings. So if anyone knows how to correlate the EUN to a car please contact me. I really don't care as I would rather have a real WW block then an SR motor.

It's documented with it's PHS documents. Trying to track down the original owner to get more insight on the car as well as more history and hopefully they saved some of the original documents on the car.

I would like to thank NJSteve for recommending TFX International auto transport. They are great. The car never leaves their control from pick up to delivery. Also a thank you to Bill Nawrut who back in the day was a Kole Pontiac employee and is the original owner of 72 GTO for sending me an original Kole Pontiac deck lid decal for my car.

It just arrived this Monday in the rain and I can't get good pictures of the Judge. Besides I had to get on the road for work. Traveling like a madman, it's the end of our quarter. I will post some good pictures over the weekend. Here's the PHS in the meantime.
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Old 07-25-2013, 08:35 PM
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Ok, one lousy garage pic before I left for work.
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Old 07-25-2013, 11:27 PM
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Damn dat sumbich looks GOOD !!
Real
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Atoll with Blue interior is way up on my list for all 70 A-Body
i missed an Atoll Blue/Blue IV 4spd GTO that was in Cali , back in mid'ish 80's.
$8500 and i had cold feet for such a long walk.

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Old 07-25-2013, 11:40 PM
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What is the Plant Code denominator in the VIN of the block ?

Maybe it came from a Trans Am

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NICE IV Judge. LUV the Atoll / blue gut combination! What a find - congrats!

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Congrats on the new wheels and wish you many happy miles. Killer Car!

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very nice

I was talking with a guy the other day and a question came up. if a car was sold new in Canada, would jim have the phs sheet on it???

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if a car was sold new in Canada, would jim have the phs sheet on it???
Nope, Canadian delivered Pontiac invoices are almost always available only from GM of Canada.

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If the car was built in Canada but sold new in the US, PHS would have the documents. That may be the confusion.

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Congrats! Great acquisition. Sure was nice of your old boss to call you and forward the email to you. Enjoy it in good health!

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If the car was built in Canada but sold new in the US, PHS would have the documents. That may be the confusion.
I never really thought about it until now, but maybe that is why sometimes jim just doesn't have any record of a car ???????

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