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Old 12-05-2013, 04:12 PM
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I know the early cars got them, I have one;

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Old 12-05-2013, 04:16 PM
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Good stuff here:

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Old 12-05-2013, 05:31 PM
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the one threaded hole on the back of my alt. appears never have to been used...certainly does not need it...I will have to check other 72 T/As....thanks

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Old 12-05-2013, 09:53 PM
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the one threaded hole on the back of my alt. appears never have to been used...certainly does not need it...I will have to check other 72 T/As....thanks
that rear bracket is different than other rear brackets used on smaller alternators and it curves away from the alternator at the top.

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I know the early cars got them, I have one;

(old pic)
The bracket above picture is for a NON 80 amp set up and that bracket will not line up to the Boss hole on the back of the 80 amp alternator
To illustrate, the picture below the bracket on left is the more common one for the 55 amp alt. The one on the right is for the fixed position 80 amp Alternator. Its like a mirror image of the other one.

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I am confused..did 80 amp get a rear holding bracket or not...sorry about this

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The 80 Amp alternator, which is the one that is mounted in a non-adjustable position (the idler pulley sets the adjustment) has a large bracket in the rear with a spacer. If you ordered A/C and the rear defogger - the glass with the electric grid, you got the 80 Amp alternator. Here is a shot of the bracket and spacer and bolt from my 73 SD. Both of my 72's had the same set up as well.

BTW, the bracket is actually grey phosphate and not painted.
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The 80 Amp alternator, which is the one that is mounted in a non-adjustable position (the idler pulley sets the adjustment) has a large bracket in the rear with a spacer. If you ordered A/C and the rear defogger - the glass with the electric grid, you got the 80 Amp alternator. Here is a shot of the bracket and spacer and bolt from my 73 SD. Both of my 72's had the same set up as well.

BTW, the bracket is actually grey phosphate and not painted.
From what I have seen in Parts cars..., a Combo of AC and Power windows could get this 80 amp set up as well. Just an observation, not saying its Gold...

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I am confused..did 80 amp get a rear holding bracket or not...sorry about this
80 & 55 amp both had them, they were just slightly different.

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I have a/c and edf...80 amp. setup but now realize I am missing the rear bracket...most everything seems to be complete and correct except that...I will have to find those parts.. at 58k it was missing some stupid stuff...like the clip for the purge hose..the passenger side heat stove and now this...thankyou for your help everyone


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Sorry..not Rustoleum, Krylon Semi Flat Black. Here is an Amazon link. $7.74 can with Amazon's free shipping. They show cheaper at $5.99 but you pay shipping..


http://www.amazon.com/Krylon-RTA9203...emi+flat+black

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I haven't yet, will try later today or sometime this week.

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Green/red scuff pad may tone that down, or 000 steel wool

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One last post on plumbing the air cleaner vacuum lines on Ram Air cars.




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Green/red scuff pad may tone that down, or 000 steel wool
Bruce - thanks for the suggestion, but this stuff is basically a spray on vinyl coating that can be peeled off. I don't think it will ever get hard enough that it could be scuffed in a controlled. I may end up spraying both the snorkles and the lid.

I did the snorkles today and they turned out well. It still amazes how bad this stuff looks when you spray it on and then it cures and turns clear. It also seems to tighten up as it cures. The air cleaner lid looks even better today than last night with a smoother finish. Here's the snorkles.












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Interesting information. Thanks.

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That's cool!

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Bob, what publication is that in?

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Bob, what publication is that in?
Rocky - Here you go. BTW - thanks for the book you wrote. It has been a huge help.




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Come back to post in a few threads.

Why did you use the green 6484244 ('73-up, think EGR) sensor instead of the correct black 6484242 ('68-72) unit?
I thought the '70-2 RA vent pipe tubes had the bend and went away in '73 (which had an angle cut on the end). Yours looks like a newer ('77-9) unit.

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