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Old 09-12-2013, 06:32 PM
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Just the usual paranoia, in case the KGB still holds a grudge after half a century ;-)
I totally understand that. that would include our government also. your formula for mold removal looks like it worked well, how much of each did you mix, I am always afraid of bleaching things out.

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It was half a bucket of hot water and just a couple capfuls of bleach. I then added a one second squirt of dishwashing liquid. I used a wash cloth to washed the upholstery. I kept rinsing the wash cloth off in the water bucket. I let it dry and then repeated the process with a new batch of water/bleach/soap. It worked great.

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Hey Bob.. I am 99% sure that the tape on the door handles stopped in 1970.. I know 71's did not have tape on the door handles with custom trim.. did 72's start using it again?? car is looking nice,real nice.. man you have really had to do a lot of work.. glad to see the car is getting the correct attention it deserves..

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My 72 with custom trim is tape.

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Bob, are you bringing that car to the T/A Natz?
I have a hotel room reserved and Judge273 has promised me a parking spot. Assuming I can get the bumper on by then I should be there. There's a lot folks I am looking forward to having a beer with and meeting....

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Hey Bob.. I am 99% sure that the tape on the door handles stopped in 1970.. I know 71's did not have tape on the door handles with custom trim.. did 72's start using it again?? car is looking nice,real nice.. man you have really had to do a lot of work.. glad to see the car is getting the correct attention it deserves..
Uh-oh....I think I am correct, but hate to think I may be wrong. The good thing about the Black Car is that there is really nothing I had to do. Steve had all the mechanicals sorted and it runs and drives so nice. That's given me the luxury of just doing what I want to do to sort out some of the aesthetics. Thanks for the kind words...

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Nothing sweeter than an M22 whine!! Congrats Bob!

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Glad you like it! My twelve year old assembled the engine, helped by his older sister and me and the wife. Everybody installed two pistons each. Great family bonding event. Being a Mopar guy originanally, i always wondered what all the hubbub was about concernng the M22 whine. Sounded just like a Chrysler A833 four speed.

By the way, she runs on regular gas...no need for premium!

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Oh, and when you fill the tank, don't stop at the first click otherwise you'll be wondering why the gauge only reads 3/4 full. It takes a while to fill the tank to capacity...but you can empty it REALLLLY quickly at full throttle. I think it gets around 8 mpg. :-)

So are you planning on painting it in the near future? (and getting rid of that darned Gravel Guard stuff on the rockers and fenders?)

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Boy, here come probably this years stupidest or ignorant question: I thought the M21( Rockcrushers) whined, do the M22's whine noticeably and can I assume that my car does also have a M22( 73 original trans) ?
BTW, ignorance doesn't mean stupid, only lacking information( I put that in there for my own good).

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Glad you like it! My twelve year old assembled the engine, helped by his older sister and me and the wife. Everybody installed two pistons each. Great family bonding event. Being a Mopar guy originanally, i always wondered what all the hubbub was about concernng the M22 whine. Sounded just like a Chrysler A833 four speed.

By the way, she runs on regular gas...no need for premium!

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Boy, here come probably this years stupidest or ignorant question: I thought the M21( Rockcrushers) whined, do the M22's whine noticeably and can I assume that my car does also have a M22( 73 original trans) ?
BTW, ignorance doesn't mean stupid, only lacking information( I put that in there for my own good).
The trans that's called a "rock crusher", and has the greatest reputation for "whining"... IS the M22.

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O.K.
Earlier in this post Bentwheelbob makes a reference to the M22 trans whining. I guess my question should have been: does the H/O cars all have M22's rather than M21's or was that an option?

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The trans that's called a "rock crusher", and has the greatest reputation for "whining"... IS the M22.

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Boy, here come probably this years stupidest or ignorant question: I thought the M21( Rockcrushers) whined, do the M22's whine noticeably and can I assume that my car does also have a M22( 73 original trans) ?
BTW, ignorance doesn't mean stupid, only lacking information( I put that in there for my own good).
I've never understood why some people cal any Muncie a 'Rock Crusher'...
As mentioned earlier, the one really alluded to by the term 'Rcok Crusher', is only the M22;
Which had the same gears ratios as the M21, but used straight cut gears - which made the whine.

It's absolute music...

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O.K.
Earlier in this post Bentwheelbob makes a reference to the M22 trans whining. I guess my question should have been: does the H/O cars all have M22's rather than M21's or was that an option?
IIRC what I've read correctly, the M22 was developed for the Corvette, and as such, was seldom used in a non-Chevrolet;
Once again, if my memory serves me correctly, the muncie transmissions used in Pontiac's goes like this
1967-1973 wide ratio = M20
1967-1970 close ratio = M21
1971-1972 close ratio = M22
1973 wide ratio = M21*
(iirc there has been some speculation as to actual transmissions used for 1973, and I believe early in the 1974 model year, the only four speed available was the Borg Warner Super T-10)

This thread is great...

The '72 and '73 Formulas both look great!

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Don't forget the video!

Boss - this one's for you. Thanks for answering the call of duty when I dial your number.

http://s1285.photobucket.com/user/be...f4825.mp4.html

My neighbors are all thrilled that I have a new car...

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Boss - this one's for you. Thanks for answering the call of duty when I dial your number.

http://s1285.photobucket.com/user/be...f4825.mp4.html

My neighbors are all thrilled that I have a new car...
That's what I'm talkin about...nice job!

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My Pal Dave and I got a few things done today. I have some new wall art in the Hot Rod Garage courtesy of NJSteve and the Black Car. We also worked on the truck a little and cleaned up Black Car some as I am headed for my daughter's fall softball game and our first cruise together. Here's a few pictures.







Life is good.

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Boss - this one's for you. Thanks for answering the call of duty when I dial your number.

http://s1285.photobucket.com/user/be...f4825.mp4.html

My neighbors are all thrilled that I have a new car...
Next time spin 2nd & chirp 3rd!



BTW - Thanks for the video!

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Nothing but pure awesome groovy-ness
455HO Formula 4spd would be my top choice for any car made in 1972 .

good ol BurningwheelsBob throws out a hail mary and scores with the long shot


Great stuff Bob and Steve

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BTW - Thanks for the video!
Man, you're hard to please. Since my first post on March 9, 2012 you have asked 78 people on PY to post a burnout video. After all that time you finally get one posted and it wasn't quite abusive enough. No wonder you're not married....har, har.

Actually, if you notice at the tail end of the video a neighbor pops over the crest of the hill heading the other direction and discretion kicked in pretty quickly.

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Man, you're hard to please. Since my first post on March 9, 2012 you have asked 78 people on PY to post a burnout video. After all that time you finally get one posted and it wasn't quite abusive enough. No wonder you're not married....har, har.

Actually, if you notice at the tail end of the video a neighbor pops over the crest of the hill heading the other direction and discretion kicked in pretty quickly.
...and the credit goes to you for posting one! Unfortunately it would appear we are in the minority here.

I saw that - figured you weren't going to go sideways in 2nd when they crested that hill. BTW - not married by choice this time around - 8 years & counting & she's still here....I'm a lucky guy!

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