[Brewster]

Bob, Thanks ahead of time for posting the paint results. Will be in need of the correct mix come this spring.
Also try Paulaner Octoberfest and Woodford Reserve to help with the cooking process

[RamAir]

X2 on the paint needs when the final determination is established. Thanks in advance for doing this!

[transam1972]

has anyone ever used Plasti-Kote #208 Pontiac engine blue in a rattle can?..that is what I used and I was quite pleased...I had used the Ames 72 blue rattle can but I did not like it..i felt it was too dark compared to some of the parts left with original paint..my engine was not removed so its a combination of the intake and the front of the engine and I left the lower half original, separated by chrome valve covers, believe it or not it works..i am curious as to what color wins but again any opinions on Plasti-Kote? thanks!

[Bentwheelbob]

Originally Posted by transam1972

has anyone ever used Plasti-Kote #208 Pontiac engine blue in a rattle can?..that is what I used and I was quite pleased...I had used the Ames 72 blue rattle can but I did not like it..i felt it was too dark compared to some of the parts left with original paint..my engine was not removed so its a combination of the intake and the front of the engine and I left the lower half original, separated by chrome valve covers, believe it or not it works..i am curious as to what color wins but again any opinions on Plasti-Kote? thanks!

You mean like this one? Got it covered....

[transam1972]

cool!..that be the one

[rexs73gto]

The p-k 208 is the correct color for the engines in your 75-76 cars but not a 72 or 73. The 208 is about the same color as the OLDS blue that Pontiac uses for the 75-76 cars.

[Bentwheelbob]

Don't thank me - it's my pleasure. The last 16 months at work have been more stressful than I care to think about. My sanity has been maintained in no small part courtesy of the Hot Rod Garage and my "e-Friends" here on PY. Both have provided me an escape and an opportunity to focus on better things. Thanks.

Also, 70RAII deserves an honorable mention here. He contacted me about one of my engine paint posts and offered to send me a partial can of OEM paint. It was that contact which initiated this entire insanity.

We are making progress at the Hot Rod Garage. The brisket went on at 10:00 and the ribs joined in at 1:00. Also, I broke my 12:00 rule and popped the top on an Octoberfest at around 11:30. The paint sample project is also underway. I am using the paint booth which has taken over my cabinet/woodshop. I got the MDF primed, wet sanded and a coat of white paint applied as a base coat. I am not sure if I will start spraying engine paint today or not. I am going to tape the MDF off in sections to divide the different paints - that was the reason for the white base coat. I am a little bit afraid that if the base coat does not dry overnight that the dividing tape will peel it up when it is removed. I'm still thinking about it, but my inclination is to not rush the process. Sort of like cooking a brisket. Here's a few pictures.



The smoker - File photo



The paint booth - File Photo



MDF



Primer



White base coat

[RamAir]

O my, that's quite a production. Enjoy!

[Mezzo]

Thanks BWB. I'm enjoying a nice Jack Daniels and Coke preparing for rib Fest tomorrow.

[PB]

I too have used the Plasti Kote 208 in years past. I still have a couple of old cans. Do we need to add this to the test mix? That Paint is pretty darn close, and super cheap too...easily applied.

[Bentwheelbob]

Like the classic Clint Eastwood movie, this morning I have The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly....,but we're having fun.

The Good - I forgot to set my clock back so I was out of bed at 4:30 and got an early start on things. The test boards all got taped off in sections (5 sections in all), and the spraying has begun. There will be 5 paints used including: Ames, OEM, PlastiKote 208, Tieman, and a mix from the formula provided on the PontiacPower page that is frequently referenced on this site. I am not going to disclose which paint is which. I am not sure what I am going to do once I have all the samples sprayed since I really don't have a "datum point" to which to compare them. OPH indicated he had some very nice old valve covers stashed away in a hermitically sealed vault, so maybe I can suck him into this folly. Anyone else have something with original engine paint that has not been subjected to 41 years of heat cycling, grease, oil et cetera?

The brisket was pretty good as well.

The Bad - The first engine paint I sprayed has reacted with the base coat paint and is checking somewhat. Nothing I can do about that, but I am enacting plans B and C. This means I should have even more samples to distribute. I assume all the paints will have a similar reaction.

The Ugly - The picture which shows the checking. It's not that bad, but after all this work it is disappointing. Here's a few pictures.

[The Boss]

I'm not sure if this thread belongs on Velocity any more....more likely the food network.

Keep us posted Bob, hold off on the Knob!

[Mezzo]

BWB, let me know when the samples are ready. I can PM my address. Thanks for all the work on this.

[necdb3]

Boy, The lighting and camera angle are really going to play havoc. It looks so much greener in the last pic.

[transam1972]

BWB..I can send you an intake manifold stud and one of those big chubby washers that held the intake manifold on..my car saw 14 seasons before it came off the road and I removed those parts to remove the intake...I replaced them with repos and saved the old hardware as keepsakes...they have a lot of original paint on them and they appear very unaffected by the time they spent doing there job for 58k..i can send you some right away for comparison purposes..just PM me your address, they can go out tomorrow..and they are yours to keep..I have been thinking of making a necklace with the other ones

[72TAMAN]

Hi guys

I have the pictures of my balancer that I painted last year with the plasti-kote # 208 and the pictures were taking at the same time but the color on the last one does not look the same as the first three pictures . The only thing that was done differently was the setting on my camera was set for close up and the picture was taking closer to the balancer. I may have played with the flash but everything else is the same , the pictures were taking within a minute of each other . This is just to show that the angle or flash or how close you take the picture will change the look of the color.

[transam1972]

glad to know I am not the only one whos Pontiac engine sports Plasti-Kote #208..now we need some pics of someones 75 Oldsmobile engine to compare

[njsteve]

Originally Posted by transam1972

glad to know I am not the only one whos Pontiac engine sports Plasti-Kote #208..now we need some pics of someones 75 Oldsmobile engine to compare

It is not the same as the 1975 Olds color. My Grandmother's 1975 Firebird has that weird metallic royal blue engine color. Bill Hirsch makes a perfect match for that color which isn't available in a spray can. Funny thing is that a buddy of mine with several Oldsmobiles took one look at my engine and told me that it was definitely the same Olds metallic blue that was on his engines.

Here's the link to Gramma's car engine color: http://forums.maxperformanceinc.com/...=gramma&page=4

[Bentwheelbob]

All right, here we have a few pictures. I counsel the folks who work for me that I don't want them to be a bird dog.. What I mean is that I don't pay them to simply flush a bird up and say "look, there it is, take a shot if you want". I expect them to flush the bird, kill it, clean it, bring it home and then help cook it.

Well, I feel a little like a bird dog. Here they are...now what? We're still working on this Cuda, but I wanted to get a few pictures out. I'll talk about potential next steps later.

[necdb3]

Originally Posted by 72TAMAN

Hi guys

I have the pictures of my balancer that I painted last year with the plasti-kote # 208 and the pictures were taking at the same time but the color on the last one does not look the same as the first three pictures . The only thing that was done differently was the setting on my camera was set for close up and the picture was taking closer to the balancer. I may have played with the flash but everything else is the same , the pictures were taking within a minute of each other . This is just to show that the angle or flash or how close you take the picture will change the look of the color.

From those pictures, 208 has way too much blue.