[LiL Jack]

Originally Posted by 65nss4spdGTO

Looks like that little small motor, small tire, dairy queen driving, no steam rollers, no big cubic inch monster, street car from Delaware is gonna smash that once in a life time 7.94???

Calvin Hill
Hill Performance
708-250-7420

I guess we will find out tomorrow


Where are you racing Calvin?

[Jeff Kinsler]

Originally Posted by LiL Jack

I guess we will find out tomorrow

aww chit!!!!

[LiL Jack]

Originally Posted by EPC_Motorsports

Jeff, made some changes to the as we ask and did a nice job I must say. The head was just too big for what we wanted so we build all of our own stuff that fits our style of racing. Alan minor does our motors and cylinder head and camshaft design We epoxyed up the intake runners and still got the head over 500 cfm at 800lift 525 inches on 3 systems will make over 1650 hp And by the way , They know what thare doing to build a head as nice as it is. Problem is most racers don't know what they want. You know what I mean?

Phew, that sounds like a beast! Is that motor going in the firebird to race in the Warriors OPS race next year?

[Jeff Kinsler]

Originally Posted by LiL Jack

Phew, that sounds like a beast! Is that motor going in the firebird to race in the Warriors OPS race next year?

Jack he doesn't have anything for the killer your building.

[bad69bird]

Originally Posted by EPC_Motorsports

Whats up with this we chit. Im sure jeff can speak for him self. Fact! When Ever the firebird came to play our crew came prepared. It was always some sort of story with all the other clowns. We always could walk the walk. as for the squirl comment, Derrick and I will run any small tire Pontiac in our league for whatever. Good luck with the venture to get into the 4s. Like I have said time and time again We can back it up. If you think a 4.90 something will get it done in primo conditions, WOW! You must not be the smarter side of the WE. Besides I wouldn't do that to jeff, Well unless he ask for it.

Well it seems to me that there are more than one person speaking on your behalf (you and someone else). Because I find it amazing how the above post is grammatically correct (for the most part) and spelling is ok; however, the post that you made calling everyone out looks like...well uh you can finish that part of the sentence. Hmmm seems weird to me.

Yes I will give you that you show up ready to rock. Never said you guys didn't come correct. Thought you were a smart man yourself, but maybe I'm wrong because a nitrous car doesn't pick up in "primo conditions" like a blower or turbo car does...it more messes with the tune...but you knew that right? And WTH is the "smarter side of WE?" Funny how last month you were talking to Jeff and a 5.03 was getting it done and now a 4.9x something isn't...make up your mind. Not taking anything away from your program, but do what you say you're going to do with a plate and the chitty mickey and not a fogger or two or three and the pro mickey...then we'll line up and cross the scales when we're finished.

Originally Posted by EPC_Motorsports

Cecil county, late oct 2010. Like I said We don't have to be the first ones to do anything, Or maby we were. In 2010 we went 169 mph at over 4000 ft of air 8.20 With a 1.35 60 ft at 3450. You think I didn't have it layed back, yeah OK The next morning turned the timers back and went 120 flat to the 60 foot and broke the rear at 0.4 in. If you pick up a tenth and a half to the 60 where do you think your at. With that tune up we had been 172 out the back. Just food for thought. I have said in many posts before, We only go as fast as we need too. That's a smart racer!

Again post up the slip of the 174.8 MPH and I'll concede and offer my congratulations. Sounds like a lot of speculation to me with the rest of your post.

[LiL Jack]

Originally Posted by Jeff Kinsler

Jack he doesn't have anything for the killer your building.

GLTTFMF!

[Jeff Kinsler]

Originally Posted by LiL Jack

GLTTFMF!

DIDTHATJUSTHAPPEN!!!!!!

[Scott Roberts]

Best of luck to ya EPC..you have a good chance of making power sinse the REK'ing crew clowns didn't have their hands in the motor and only made the heads.. alway said the heads had potential in the right hands.. nice numbers at .800 lift..how about velocity numbers? Big "dumb" ports are a thing of the past for boosted combos. BAE proved that with the "8" head which has turned to pro stock tech. And left the previous versions in the dust.. do you have any numbers on fps?

[EPC_Motorsports]

Originally Posted by LiL Jack

Phew, that sounds like a beast! Is that motor going in the firebird to race in the Warriors OPS race next year?

Thats the plan. We get the car back arround christmas.

[EPC_Motorsports]

Originally Posted by Scott Roberts

Best of luck to ya EPC..you have a good chance of making power sinse the REK'ing crew clowns didn't have their hands in the motor and only made the heads.. alway said the heads had potential in the right hands.. nice numbers at .800 lift..how about velocity numbers? Big "dumb" ports are a thing of the past for boosted combos. BAE proved that with the "8" head which has turned to pro stock tech. And left the previous versions in the dust.. do you have any numbers on fps?

We thought the ports were real nice in stock form. We changed the port for nos and twisted the entry into the combustion chamber. Jeff and mark built that head to run n/a The air speed in these heads are better than a 14 degree cfe cheverolet head I have on my turbo car and have much better low lift numbers

[EPC_Motorsports]

Originally Posted by bad69bird

Well it seems to me that there are more than one person speaking on your behalf (you and someone else). Because I find it amazing how the above post is grammatically correct (for the most part) and spelling is ok; however, the post that you made calling everyone out looks like...well uh you can finish that part of the sentence. Hmmm seems weird to me.

Yes I will give you that you show up ready to rock. Never said you guys didn't come correct. Thought you were a smart man yourself, but maybe I'm wrong because a nitrous car doesn't pick up in "primo conditions" like a blower or turbo car does...it more messes with the tune...but you knew that right? And WTH is the "smarter side of WE?" Funny how last month you were talking to Jeff and a 5.03 was getting it done and now a 4.9x something isn't...make up your mind. Not taking anything away from your program, but do what you say you're going to do with a plate and the chitty mickey and not a fogger or two or three and the pro mickey...then we'll line up and cross the scales when we're finished.



Again post up the slip of the 174.8 MPH and I'll concede and offer my congratulations. Sounds like a lot of speculation to me with the rest of your post.

What kind of spark plug wires do you and jeff use? When jeff and I line these cars up you can figure it out then. Everybody knows one and other, I am just trying to give you a heads up. If you wanna jump on it, Go right ahead. $2000.00 or better will get it done.

[Blued and Painted]

The warp 6 does look like and import cylinder head and may not fit the classic Pontiac profile.

[65nss4spdGTO]

Originally Posted by EPC_Motorsports

What kind of spark plug wires do you and jeff use? When jeff and I line these cars up you can figure it out then. Everybody knows one and other, I am just trying to give you a heads up. If you wanna jump on it, Go right ahead. $2000.00 or better will get it done.

Originally Posted by Jeff Kinsler

DIDTHATJUSTHAPPEN!!!!!!

[Scott Roberts]

What tire are you gonna run on? Are you close to va for some grudge racing?

[bad69bird]

Originally Posted by EPC_Motorsports

What kind of spark plug wires do you and jeff use? When jeff and I line these cars up you can figure it out then. Everybody knows one and other, I am just trying to give you a heads up. If you wanna jump on it, Go right ahead. $2000.00 or better will get it done.

Now you are being ridiculous! You know damn well one fogger, two foggers, three foggers, or four or however many you are putting on will out do a plate any day of the week! Get a grip Jack! Way to deflect! Again, proof of the 174.8 MPH or it didn't happen! You know we class race not grudge race...too totally different animals. Hope to see you at Cecil today. Stop by and say hi.

[LiL Jack]

Where are you Brian? Did u get lost?

[johnta1]

Now you are being ridiculous! You know damn well one fogger, two foggers, three foggers, or four or however many you are putting on will out do a plate any day of the week! Get a grip Jack! Way to deflect! Again, proof of the 174.8 MPH or it didn't happen! You know we class race not grudge race...too totally different animals.

Rules, so many darn rules.


I thought you guys ran heads up, not bracket racing with your set of rules.



Guess if you can't make the power, run a 'street class'.

[bad69bird]

Originally Posted by johnta1

Rules, so many darn rules.


I thought you guys ran heads up, not bracket racing with your set of rules.



Guess if you can't make the power, run a 'street class'.

First of all, he is trying to compare apples to oranges. His combo is not even close to Jeff's.

Second of all, we do run a heads-up class...not a grudge class.

Third of all, we make the power and do it in a door car not a dragster. Dragsters are for people who can't make a lot of power...guess that's why you have a dragster!

[johnta1]

First of all, he is trying to compare apples to oranges. His combo is not even close to Jeff's.

You guys are always fight about how you combo is better, quicker, faster, leap over tall buildings, etc. until someone is better, quicker, faster, and leaps over taller buildings than your stuff.
Then you start whining about some cr@p that doesn't mean anything.

Third of all, we make the power and do it in a door car not a dragster. Dragsters are for people who can't make a lot of power...guess that's why you have a dragster!

This is more apples to oranges than the other example.

I'm for going quicker than you, not by doing what you think it should be done.
(and doing it the cheapest way without spending a ton of money and having some one else do the work)

So, I take it you guys aren't really for making the most power or going the quickest, just who can spend the most to go slow at some ridiculous set of rules?

[EPC_Motorsports]

Originally Posted by bad69bird

First of all, he is trying to compare apples to oranges. His combo is not even close to Jeff's.

Second of all, we do run a heads-up class...not a grudge class.

Third of all, we make the power and do it in a door car not a dragster. Dragsters are for people who can't make a lot of power...guess that's why you have a dragster!

Sorry buddy, Would love to come and argue but have to work all day For us to go 8.00s I ran a 24 jet and a 28 jet. You mean to tell me that you cant push more square than that through that plate, yeah right! your not talking like you have a 1990 big shot plate .That steve johnson plate is good for almost 600 horse worth of nos. Give me the math for how much nos we have, not even 475! Jeffs car runs very well for what you have and you guys have some smart people in your camp. The car has a good front half. We only showed we can run out the back.If I showed my front numbers whare are we at. Its all about math ,But you already knew that. I guess we will just have to admit that we have a lot of **** with us and that we can not produce when the time comes. Bad bet on your behalf.