[Baron Von Zeppelin]

to me the worst thing about a Gold 70 Judge is the Green/Yellow/White decals.
i just couldnt do it

Pink 70 Judge could be interesting with pinky blue decals
indyman might be onto something .....

[6TEE8GTO]

I appreciate the replies.
Couple things- I think in all honesty, with the overall condition of the car to begin with, if I opted for a frame-off/concours type restoration, I'd end up under water money-wise when all is said and done. I think the car Mark linked to is a car where the owner will or has lost a LOT of $$$. That car isn't selling. I have seen it listed several times now. Plus, I didn't buy the car to turn a buck, I always have wanted a Judge. I also want to drive the car and not have it be a trailer queen. The value stuff is all relative. To that end, am I wrong to assume that a car with the original engine and trans but wrong color is still always worth more than a Judge that is painted the correct color but no longer has the original driveline? I mean, you can always paint a car, but you can never replace the original engine? I realize I will possibly hurt the value by changing it to a different color, but the fact is it's the wrong color now anyway so that would be a lateral move of sorts?
Since I want to drive the car, and I'm older and don't know how much Earth Time I have left, I'm leaning towards painting it a color I like and driving and enjoying it.

White's another color I'm looking at. Whatever I decide, it at least will be a 1970 Judge color.

As far as people asking if it's real, I think people will ALWAYS
ask if it's real, no matter what color. And the answer is YES it's a real Judge...

[Diego]

An option to consider: Change the stripes from the green/yellow/white ones to something else like red/black/yellow.

[blue71ta]

if you're changing colors, my vote would be for Atoll Blue

[68bird400HO]

Originally Posted by 6TEE8GTO

I appreciate the replies.
Couple things- I think in all honesty, with the overall condition of the car to begin with, if I opted for a frame-off/concours type restoration, I'd end up under water money-wise when all is said and done. I think the car Mark linked to is a car where the owner will or has lost a LOT of $$$. That car isn't selling. I have seen it listed several times now. Plus, I didn't buy the car to turn a buck, I always have wanted a Judge. I also want to drive the car and not have it be a trailer queen. The value stuff is all relative. To that end, am I wrong to assume that a car with the original engine and trans but wrong color is still always worth more than a Judge that is painted the correct color but no longer has the original driveline? I mean, you can always paint a car, but you can never replace the original engine? I realize I will possibly hurt the value by changing it to a different color, but the fact is it's the wrong color now anyway so that would be a lateral move of sorts?
Since I want to drive the car, and I'm older and don't know how much Earth Time I have left, I'm leaning towards painting it a color I like and driving and enjoying it.

White's another color I'm looking at. Whatever I decide, it at least will be a 1970 Judge color.

As far as people asking if it's real, I think people will ALWAYS
ask if it's real, no matter what color. And the answer is YES it's a real Judge...

What color interior do you have?

[69 DAYTONA]

...I used to do car appraisals years ago...I always deducted the $$$ amount of a quality repaint from the final total on a car painted the wrong color

...if you are going to keep it for ever, color change makes no difference, but I have seen too many cases where for ever wasn't for ever, and the seller loses...do it correctly, or trade it for what you really want

[6TEE8GTO]

Originally Posted by 68bird400HO

What color interior do you have?

Sandalwood, and the carpet was replaced by previous owner with black, so that's wrong too...

[6TEE8GTO]

Originally Posted by 69 DAYTONA

...I used to do car appraisals years ago...I always deducted the $$$ amount of a quality repaint from the final total on a car painted the wrong color

...if you are going to keep it for ever, color change makes no difference, but I have seen too many cases where for ever wasn't for ever, and the seller loses...do it correctly, or trade it for what you really want

Ok, let me ask you this then- When you value these cars, do you deduct or add for a desirable color when the car is color correct? In other words do you value a car that is Orbit Orange higher than a Grenada Gold?

As far as keeping cars goes, I have a history of going thru cars I don't bond with, and a history of keeping ones that I do bond with. I have a Mustang Cobra that I have had for 19 years now, and I had a 2008 Shelby GT500 that had sat in a dealer showroom for almost two years (from 2007 to 2009) that I was able to get a great deal on because the dealer wanted it gone. It was Grabber Orange, which is a love-hate color. Most people hated it. I'd have it at gatherings and people would say "Why THAT color?"
I thought it was ok but I never connected with it. When the new body style came out, I swapped it for a 2010 Kona Blue GT500, which is an amazing color. I had to look far and wide to find one in that color because they would sell right away. And I love the thing. And it's funny, the opposite of the orange car is true- I can't take it anywhere without someone saying how much they like the color.

[68bird400HO]

Originally Posted by 6TEE8GTO

Sandalwood, and the carpet was replaced by previous owner with black, so that's wrong too...

I am a purist and believe a car like this should be kept original. However, like others say, it is your car and returning to original is really just an exterior paint job away. I would not get into changing the interior color however as I think that is more involved than just an exterior paint job. Sandlewood is a neat interior and I think would look best with Atoll Blue or Black. I know, everyone does black, but, I think there is something special about a Black Judge especially with the pink-blue stripes and the sandlewood would look cool and be different.

OO is overdone. I also think it is interesting that the 2008 Shelby you mention was Grabber Orange and did not really appeal to anyone, including yourself. However, OO is very close to Ford Grabber Orange.

Just my 2 cents.

[6TEE8GTO]

Originally Posted by 68bird400HO

I am a purist and believe a car like this should be kept original. However, like others say, it is your car and returning to original is really just an exterior paint job away. I would not get into changing the interior color however as I think that is more involved than just an exterior paint job. Sandlewood is a neat interior and I think would look best with Atoll Blue or Black. I know, everyone does black, but, I think there is something special about a Black Judge especially with the pink-blue stripes and the sandlewood would look cool and be different.

OO is overdone. I also think it is interesting that the 2008 Shelby you mention was Grabber Orange and did not really appeal to anyone, including yourself. However, OO is very close to Ford Grabber Orange.

Just my 2 cents.

You are very observant to notice the similarity between Grabber Orange and Orbit Orange. On a Shelby it just does not look that great, especially with the white stripes.
On a 1970 GTO Judge, it is a color that goes with the car and it's lineage.

I like the interior and don't plan to change it. I'm also seeing different shades of what is supposed to be "Grenada Gold" and it's confusing me. Some look like a chestnut brown, but there's a car from BJ that does look "Gold" and I kinda like it actually. This car looks to be "gold" and not brown: (I realize this is not a Judge)



Most of the Grenada Gold cars I see in photos look brown like this one:

[6TEE8GTO]

Added: The car above looks pretty nice actually, the Judge....

Hmm.....

[6TEE8GTO]

And these are just awesome looking to me- Classy and cool:

[68bird400HO]

Granada Gold is like the Judge in your picture above. The other 70 GTO looks to be Baja Gold or Quezal Gold, a 1971 color. I do like the Granada Gold Judge in your picture above with those stripes. The sandalwood interior might make that combo pop even more.

Here are a few pics of one from the ultimate GTO site. You probably need to see one in person to get a real feel for the color combo.

http://ultimategto.com/cgi-bin/showc...970/70_00088_1

[pacekar]

do u think that if your car was a factory orbit orange or blue with it having the number matching drive train that you would have bought it as cheep as you did?

[6TEE8GTO]

Originally Posted by pacekar

do u think that if your car was a factory orbit orange or blue with it having the number matching drive train that you would have bought it as cheep as you did?

Oh no, of course not! I realize that. If it was a true OO car it would have been a lot more expensive... On another note... My wife thinks Polar white and Mint Turquoise are the best colors.

[6TEE8GTO]

Ok I am kind of surprised at the number of GG cars produced in 1970! It's the second most popular color behind Atoll Blue! OO is the rarest. Mint Turquoise is also very rare. Apparently a lot of people liked GG back in the day.

Atoll Blue 4980 E 28 *
Granada Gold 4664 Z 58 ***
Cardinal Red 3777 R 75 ****
Pepper Green 3661 M 48 ***
Verdoro Green 3299 Q 47 ***
Sierra Yellow 2889 Y 50 ***
Palisade Green 2487 H 45 ***
Polar White 2460 C 10 **
Palladium Silver 2394 P 14 **
Baja Gold 2067 G 55 ***
Bermuda Blue 1861 D 25 *
Black 1515 A 19 **
Palamino Copper 1457 B 63 ***
Burgundy 1246 N 78 ****
Mint Turquoise 774 K 34 *
Orbit Orange 618 T 60 *

[red1975pacer]

grenada Gold seems to be a decent color, especially if the side stripe is changed to one that pops. howerver mint turquise is the color I would consider if I absultly had to change it

[68bird400HO]

Originally Posted by 6TEE8GTO

Ok I am kind of surprised at the number of GG cars produced in 1970! It's the second most popular color behind Atoll Blue! OO is the rarest. Mint Turquoise is also very rare. Apparently a lot of people liked GG back in the day.

Atoll Blue 4980 E 28 *
Granada Gold 4664 Z 58 ***
Cardinal Red 3777 R 75 ****
Pepper Green 3661 M 48 ***
Verdoro Green 3299 Q 47 ***
Sierra Yellow 2889 Y 50 ***
Palisade Green 2487 H 45 ***
Polar White 2460 C 10 **
Palladium Silver 2394 P 14 **
Baja Gold 2067 G 55 ***
Bermuda Blue 1861 D 25 *
Black 1515 A 19 **
Palamino Copper 1457 B 63 ***
Burgundy 1246 N 78 ****
Mint Turquoise 774 K 34 *
Orbit Orange 618 T 60 *

Keep in mind that OO was the only color specific to Judges with the exception of a few special order non-Judges. If you find a breakdown of Judge color mix, I believe that OO was THE most common 1970 Judge color.

[6TEE8GTO]

Originally Posted by 68bird400HO

Keep in mind that OO was the only color specific to Judges with the exception of a few special order non-Judges. If you find a breakdown of Judge color mix, I believe that OO was THE most common 1970 Judge color.

I believe you are correct. As far as I can tell, there were only 51 Polar White 1970 Judges with a flat black spoiler...

[Jason67]

I like granada gold. Its a sharp color on a 70, and like others have said the stripe colors are the only turn off for me. I would look at other stripe colors on the gold, such as YBR and see how that changes it. The hot set up would be to take that pic of the granada gold judge you posted and photoshop different stripe colors on it to see the changes, might make you not perform a color change, only one way to find out.

In the long run, you have a documented #s match 70 Judge that you're going to keep for some time. Any color YOU like on it is going to be cool.