[KS circutguy]

Holy Cow.
http://www.nbcnews.com/video/nightly...8481/#54228481

[thadeal4real]

screw the farmers I'll get my food at the grocery store

people like Jerry Brown are the problem we've been fighting them for years

[Bob Dillon]

Originally Posted by thadeal4real

screw the farmers I'll get my food at the grocery store

people like Jerry Brown are the problem we've been fighting them for years

Generally, farmers (who are generally located in the Central Valley) are very Republican.

So, governor Moonbeam is willing to screw them to keep the lawns green in L.A., as the southland HAS no water. It all comes from up this way.

[thadeal4real]

I was joking it's a bumper sticker

[hurryinhoosier62]

Somebody better start a rain dance.

[klunker]

everytime I've traveled to So. Cali. I'm amazed at how much water is wasted. I walk out of the hotel for a walk early in the morning and the sprinklers are all going full blast to grow grass. When I look across the street at the natural landscape the hillsides are as dry as a popcorn fart. I'm convinced that the vast majority of people that live out there don't have a clue that they live in at best semi-arid climate.
they water lawns, have swimming pools and waste water like there is no end to it.
Amazing to me. And the "leaders" don't do a thing.

[KS circutguy]

Ever been to Vegas?

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[71GP76TA]

We got a little bit of rain today......

[Ben M.]

Originally Posted by 71GP76TA

We got a little bit of rain today......

It rained all day starting at 2AM until around 4:30 here on the coast!

[Simple Man]

So much for global warming......

[Half-Inch Stud]

The smelt fish is Minnow!

Sunlight is the best disinfectant for the deceitful crimes going on. with water distribution, west of the Mississippi

[2002Z4CSS]

We got so much snow this winter and rain on Saturday my garage has an inch of water on the floor.

[Alvin]

Originally Posted by klunker

everytime I've traveled to So. Cali. I'm amazed at how much water is wasted. I walk out of the hotel for a walk early in the morning and the sprinklers are all going full blast to grow grass. When I look across the street at the natural landscape the hillsides are as dry as a popcorn fart. I'm convinced that the vast majority of people that live out there don't have a clue that they live in at best semi-arid climate.
they water lawns, have swimming pools and waste water like there is no end to it.
Amazing to me. And the "leaders" don't do a thing.

IIRC - Around 1976/77 when I lived there, there was a drought in the greater LA / San Diego areas of SoCal. It was bad enough that there was a lawn watering and car washing ban for the civilian population mandate with penalties and stiff fines for water use violators.

The obscene thing that occurred at the same time was at all of the Military bases in the area continued with their daily law sprinklers soaking the grounds; not in a normal manner, but with so much water used (wasted) that it literally flooded the grounds & grass and tens of thousands (millions?) of gallons of water poured into and down the streetside drains. So bad that broken sprinkler heads spewed fountains of water into the air with the command ignoring the waste of usage for months.

Makes one wonder where else mismanagement and waste occurs this very day. The water shortage scenerio in Cali is old news that has been predicted, studied, and discussed for decades. In fact you've probably viewed a movie or two about the very subject:

Chinatown (1974 film)

Chinatown is a 1974 American neo-noir film, directed by Roman Polanski from a screenplay by Robert Towne, and starring Jack Nicholson, Faye Dunaway, and John Huston. The film was inspired by the California Water Wars, a series of disputes over southern California water at the beginning of the 20th century by which Los Angeles interests secured water rights in the Owens Valley. The Robert Evans production, a Paramount Pictures release, was the director's last film in the United States, and features many elements of film noir, particularly a multi-layered story that is part mystery and part psychological drama.

Plot
A woman identifying herself as Evelyn Mulwray (Ladd) hires private investigator J.J. "Jake" Gittes (Nicholson) to perform surveillance on her husband Hollis I. Mulwray (Zwerling), the chief engineer for the Los Angeles Department of Water and Power. Gittes tails him, hears him publicly oppose the creation of a new reservoir, and shoots photographs of him with a young woman (Palmer) that are published on the front page of the following day's paper. Upon his return to his office, Gittes is confronted by a beautiful woman who, after establishing that the two of them have never met, irately informs him she is Evelyn Mulwray (Dunaway) and that he can expect a lawsuit.

Realizing he was set up, Gittes figures whoever did it wants to get Mulwray, but, before he can question the husband, Lieutenant Lou Escobar (Lopez) fishes Mulwray, drowned, from a freshwater reservoir. Suspicious of murder, Gittes investigates and notices that, although huge quantities of water are released from the reservoir every night, the land is almost completely dry. He is confronted by Water Department Security Chief Claude Mulvihill (Jenson) with a henchman (Polanski) who slashes Gittes's nose. Back at his office, Gittes receives a call from Ida Sessions, an actress whom he recognizes as the bogus Mrs. Mulwray. She is afraid to identify her employer, but provides a clue: the name of one of "those people" is in that day's obituaries.

Gittes learns that Mrs. Mulwray's husband was once the business partner of her father, Noah Cross (Huston), so he meets Cross for lunch at his personal club. Cross offers to double Gittes' fee to search for Mulwray's missing girlfriend, plus a bonus if he succeeds. Gittes visits the hall of records where he discovers that many large orange groves have recently changed ownership in the northwest San Fernando Valley. He goes there but is caught and beaten by angry landowners, who believe he is one of the water department agents who have been demolishing their water tanks and poisoning their wells to force them out.
Gittes's review of the obituaries uncovers a former resident of the Mar Vista Inn, a retirement home, who is one of the new landowners in the Valley. He infers that Mulwray was murdered when he learned that the new reservoir would be used to irrigate the newly purchased properties. Evelyn and Gittes bluff their way into Mar Vista and confirm that the real estate deals are done in the name of its residents without their knowledge. After fleeing from Mulvihill and his thugs, they hide at Evelyn's house, where they nurse each other's wounds and end up in bed together.

Early morning, Evelyn has to leave suddenly, but she warns him that her father is dangerous and crazy. Gittes manages to follow her car to a house where he observes her with Mulwray's girlfriend. He confronts Evelyn, who finally confesses that the woman is her sister.
The next day, an anonymous call draws Gittes to Ida Sessions' apartment; he finds her murdered, with Escobar waiting for his arrival. Escobar pressures him because the coroner's report found salt water in Mulwray's lungs, indicating that the body was moved after death. Escobar suspects Evelyn of the murder, and insists Gittes produce her quickly or he'll face charges of his own.

Gittes returns to Evelyn's mansion. There he discovers a pair of bifocals in her salt water garden pond and finds her servants packing her bags. His suspicions aroused, he confronts Evelyn about her "sister", whom she then claims is her daughter Katherine. Gittes slaps her repeatedly until she cries out "She's my sister and my daughter!", then tearfully asks Gittes if it is "too hard" for him to understand what happened with her father. She points out that the eyeglasses are not her husband's, as he did not wear bifocals.

Gittes makes plans for the two women to flee to Mexico. He instructs Evelyn to meet him at her butler's home in Chinatown. Gittes summons Cross to the Mulwray home to settle their deal for the girl. Cross admits he intends to incorporate the Northwest Valley into the City of Los Angeles, then irrigate and develop it. Gittes produces the bifocals—they belong to Cross and link him to Mulwray's murder. Mulvihill appears, confiscates the glasses, and forces Jake to take them to the women.

When the three reach the hiding place in Chinatown, the police are already there and arrest Gittes. Evelyn will not allow Cross to approach Katherine, and when he is undeterred she shoots him in the arm and drives away with Katherine. As the car speeds off, the police open fire, killing Evelyn. Cross clutches Katherine and leads her away, while Escobar orders Gittes released, along with his associates. One of them urges, "Forget it, Jake. It's Chinatown."

[KS circutguy]

F Polanski!

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[The Boss]

That's going to be a big problem real soon.

[klunker]

Originally Posted by KS circutguy

Ever been to Vegas?

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yes, several times just as bad if not even worse. I just wonder when the water is going to run out and the rationing will start, then followed by population exodus. has to happen, no avoiding it.

[Bob Dillon]

Originally Posted by klunker

yes, several times just as bad if not even worse. I just wonder when the water is going to run out and the rationing will start, then followed by population exodus. has to happen, no avoiding it.

I've heard that same tune 3-4 times in the 30 years I've lived in California, and then we get a couple of wet winters in a row and....

[Transporter]

Originally Posted by Bob Dillon

I've heard that same tune 3-4 times in the 30 years I've lived in California, and then we get a couple of wet winters in a row and....

Could be, but as someone that regularly ran over Donner pass thru the winter, sometimes sitting on one side of the mountain or the other for a day or two, I can tell you it seems to be the least amount of snow on that range this year that I can remember.

[KS circutguy]

While the Northeast is blanketed by another winter storm, California has its own, quite inverse, climatic problems in the form of a historic drought which as Bloomberg reports, is forcing farmers in the fertile central valley region to fallow thousands of acres of fields and has left 17 rural towns so low on drinking water that the state may need to start trucking in supplies. It is so bad that water reservoirs are at about 60 percent of average, according to state water data, and falling as rainfall remains at record low levels.

Unfortunately for our California readers, it is going to get worse before it gets better because mountain snowpack is about 12 percent of normal for this time of year. The following picture of California from January and a year ago shows just this dramatic difference, which confirms that there is little hope for the parched state.

[hurryinhoosier62]

This what happens when you overpopulate in what is essentially a DESERT.