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Old 08-16-2022, 12:10 PM
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I have questions.

Wouldn't the VIN indicate this was built with a 250CI inline Chebbie six? And the "window sticker" indicates a posi rear and a radio (some kind of a delete plate over the hole), but no mention of a 400CI engine option or the four-speed. The 400CI engine tuning decal was applied over the crappy paint on the radiator support.

Interesting car, but it's obviously hodge-podged. I don't think it's $30K worth of interesting.

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Old 08-17-2022, 07:34 AM
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I do not think a 1970 VIN will show what engine it originally had. The 3-speed column shift was also available with the 350 2bbl engine. I agree on the value, it is a very base model wagon, does not even have a power tailgate window.

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Old 08-17-2022, 10:14 AM
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According to this page, the 6 indicated a 6-cylinder, a 1 indicated V8 until the 1971 model year. Starting in 72, there was a letter code for engine ID.

https://tinindianperformance.com/Pon...20decoding.htm

So yeah, very much a base model, was probably a Chebbie 250 with a three-on-the-tree, so at least it was an easy conversion in already having 3 pedals. It looks like the steering column bucket may have been shaved where the shifter knob was, and that "lift for reverse" doesn't seem like a Pontiac thing for '70.

It does look like a nice build under a fairly nice patina, and the interior condition is quite nice. Does look like fresh seat upholstery in the front bench.

Wide tires on steelies with poverty caps, some suspension tricks, good looking engine bay and so on.

Priced high to my taste. Not to mention I despise green on and in a car.

I'm a fan of longroofs, one of my 2 dailies is a 96 Roadie wagon with almost a quarter million miles on it. There's a used car lot across the highway from us with a white 96 Caddie hearse that I would own and drive in a heartbeat, but I'm full up on fleet size right now, although I did actually make some moves on that 69 LeMans Sprint convertible a few weeks back on this page. Our 69 Firebird Sprint convertible could use a big brother, but we just couldn't get the deal done.


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Old 08-19-2022, 10:15 AM
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69 Custom S convertible in SC at $7500 BIN OBO. For a 69 convertible, it doesn't get much cheaper than that. Would make a great GTO clone.


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Old 08-19-2022, 11:20 PM
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A 330-horse 350!? Interesting. May be a rare find. But there’s no photos of the engine. Would like to see what it looks like.

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Old 08-20-2022, 06:11 AM
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There was a Custom, I had one, a four door.
The "S' was an upgrade for it I think.



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65 GTO in Nevada at $9750 BIN. While this seems reasonable for car with the engine and trans (swapped to a 4-speed), I can't imagine taking on that much work. Rust is a problem as the car sat under a tarp for 20 years.

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81 T/A pace car in the shed for 25 years at $1K NR in Indiana.

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Dumpster fire parts cars special in CA at $100 NR. Two T/A's a 79 and 81. If these are lifetime CA cars the metal should be awesome.

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Dumpster fire parts cars special in CA at $100 NR. Two T/A's a 79 and 81. If these are lifetime CA cars the metal should be awesome.
'79 is a TATA.

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The '79 is a 10th Anniversary car (or at least WAS at one time).

Beat me to the punch ^

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79 T/A in at $5K NR in Minnesota with a tragic backstory. The dash in this car is something you don't see often.

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79 T/A in NM with WS6 rims and dorkey exhaust pipes at $3K NR.

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67 Firebird convert at $48.5K in Texas. Be honest... does the car look better with the 17" Rally II's or the poverty caps?

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Impressive 67 Conv-Orig car,
MY 69 400HO 4sp had 49K miles. a SURVIVOR car like this one, will always be a class to its own self.
I also had dual tire-rims sets, for a "mood change" at will, loved both styles.
Not too far off what I'de ask for it too.
$42K is the target here IMO!

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Old 08-26-2022, 01:47 PM
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67 Firebird convert at $48.5K in Texas. Be honest... does the car look better with the 17" Rally II's or the poverty caps?
Those aren't poverty caps, they're full wheel covers, probably designated "custom" in the accessories catalog.

This car would look best with Rally I wheels.

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68 GTO in Michigan at $500 NR. Lots of metal work already done and comes with a period correct 400 engine and original transmission.

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78 T/A in Ohio at $35K (yikes!) with the most T/A bling I've ever seen. To quote an instructor of mine, just because you can, doesn't mean you should.

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Let's just chock this one up top morbid curiosity, because I really don't like these cars much, though I can see beauty in them. 73 455 Grand Ville convertible in Las Vegas at $560 NR. Green with a green interior (with a brown driver's seat) and that bucket/bench seat combo is something I've not seen before. The top boot is green, so I suspect this came with a green top?

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[QUOTE=thews;6368075]78 T/A in Ohio at $35K (yikes!) with the most T/A bling I've ever seen. To quote an instructor of mine, just because you can, doesn't mean you should.

but what model is it...lol

Nice interior...

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