[Norwood]

Originally Posted by Held for Ransom

Craig, did it look like one of these...

Ya just like the first one. In fact the very same one came new in our 76 c30 tow truck

[roundportponchos]

This 2nd pic, is my battery. I sent it out, probably posted. It was sent to me from friend, notice it has french writing. It has a date stamp of 1978, came out of 79 vette from Quebec. Car had 8k miles, wouldn't charge, guy saved it since 1983.
It's just the freedom. I have called around a lot on this, & I came out 79 or 80, some tell me 81.
I talked with antique battery manufacturer, no plans yet to do a freedom. He said, $250, he would take mine apart and redo, he says it will last at least 6yrs...


UOTE=Norwood;5276607]Ya just like the first one. In fact the very same one came new in our 76 c30 tow truck[/QUOTE]

[Alvin]

Paging Bob: Our '78 W72 motor front passenger side of engine had a bright yellow paint splotch on top of the factory blue engine paint, and a black ink "OK-2" inspection stamped on the yellow paint.

A while back, there was a PYr who made up several diff stamps and was selling them for Resto use.

Did your motor have the same?

[Judge273]

Alvin, where's your pictures of this?

[Norwood]

Bob it looks fantastic, I think Burd has a good one here. Bob does Burd have both style decals and whitch is correct ?

[Bentwheelbob]

Craig - I'm sorry to hear that you seem to be falling apart. You've got to quit drinking all that beer and start drinking something stronger...I'll let Dave know you're gunning for his job. In all seriousness, I hope you are getting better and that neither problem was anything serious.

On the battery, there is lack of consensus on whether Freedom II or Freedom is correct for a '78. The general belief seems to be that Freedom is correct. Burd only has the Freedom II decals which were accepted as correct at the time of printing. The guy who printed them has since gone out of business and I don't think a source has been found to print the Freedom decals at a reasonable cost. Maybe Roger will weigh in with more definitive comments.

Get well.

Bob

[burd]

We have the decals done for both now, I put freedom in my Y88, I sold the freedomII set that I originally had in my car fir the Dream Cruise. GM Heritage says freedom for 78, someone said the II for the W72 engine, it doesn't say that in the Freedom manual, not sure your call, but they do look good, I used off white, and you can see in the pis it looks close to the washer bottle.

[Alvin]

Originally Posted by Bentwheelbob

Craig - I'm sorry to hear that you seem to be falling apart. You've got to quit drinking all that beer and start drinking something stronger...I'll let Dave know you're gunning for his job. In all seriousness, I hope you are getting better and that neither problem was anything serious.

On the battery, there is lack of consensus on whether Freedom II or Freedom is correct for a '78. The general belief seems to be that Freedom is correct. Burd only has the Freedom II decals which were accepted as correct at the time of printing. The guy who printed them has since gone out of business and I don't think a source has been found to print the Freedom decals at a reasonable cost. Maybe Roger will weigh in with more definitive comments.

Get well.

Bob

TTT

[Bentwheelbob]

Well, after a brief hiatus I am back. Things have been busy at work, and I've been spending time doing some housekeeping on the other cars. In addition, I added a new member to the family by buying a 1991 NSX. More importantly, I've been waiting on parts from SD Performance and they will soon be here so the deconstruction on the Gold Car starts tomorrow.

Dave's doing a full blown rework on a set of 6X heads which includes milling them to increase compression, and he's also reworking an intake. In addition he has spec'd a custom grind cam to work with the heads, intake, and particulars of the car. The block will get cleaned up and zero decked separately, but I'm still trying to find the best place to have that done. Local options are limited, so I might have to take it to Ohio, Tenn, or Virginia. I need a quick turnaround and would appreciate any suggestions.

I'm pretty excited to get started, and will be sure to provide regular updates. Here's a couple pictures of the Y88 waiting for surgery, and the new NSX.

[burd]

[Held for Ransom]

My old '78 W72, from what I remember, had the Freedom II. It was made in April. Option UA1.

[Norwood]

I am feeling much better thanks.....

[burd]

If you go on YouTube and look at the videos on the Freedom battery commercials, it looks like the II was 79-80. I also don't get it that GM Heritage says the freedom was the battery for 78's too. We may never know.

[Held for Ransom]

Your scheduled date of 3-16.

[Alvin]

Originally Posted by Held for Ransom

Your scheduled date of 3-16.

Thx for verification - thought it was a March 16 built. Know of any good links to decoding all Buildsheet boxes information?

Here's the photo (below) w the OK-2 stamp similar to that on ours...

To date, no original T/A 6.6 Firebirds have been documented with block cast dates later than November 1977. My research continues with the casting dates, but if this trend remains consistent, then it appears that all 400-cid blocks (both 500557 and XX481988) used for the W72 Performance Package were only produced through November 1977. Referenced from Page 5

Food for thought: Wondering out loud if the Norwood vs. Van Nuys W72 engines were inspected and/or stamped differently?

All 1977-79 Firebirds produced with the T/A 6.6 engine option list UPC code W72 PERF PACKAGE (NORWOOD, OH) or W72 PERFORM PKG (VAN NUYS, CA) on the factory build sheet. Referenced from Page 2

Thxs!

[Held for Ransom]

Some of the build sheet diagnosis here too...
http://www.78ta.com/build.php

Originally Posted by Alvin

Food for thought: Wondering out loud if the Norwood vs. Van Nuys W72 engines were inspected and/or stamped differently?

I would assume because they were built at the Pontiac Engine Assembly Plant, they would be the same.

[Alvin]

Originally Posted by Held for Ransom

Some of the build sheet diagnosis here too...
http://www.78ta.com/build.php

TY - for another excellent buildsheet resource

I would assume because they were built at the Pontiac Engine Assembly Plant, they would be the same.

Agree, but never say never right? Curious to know if all W72's were "OK-2" inspected & stamped? Anyone know for sure?

[johnta1]

Another good thread (but for 1977 mainly):

1977 Build Sheet Decode

[The Boss]

Anyone reproducing the bar code stickers yet?

[Alvin]

Know of any good links to decoding all Buildsheet boxes information?

Answering my own Q, Found this excellent "Build Sheet Bingo" by The Hoghead Boyz
Check it out http://www.firebirdtransamparts.com/...ingo/bingo.htm