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Old 07-20-2014, 03:22 PM
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ok, you got me to log in for the first time in a while with this one. now what all do we know about it and are holding out on it

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Old 07-21-2014, 01:23 AM
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Wish i knew more.
Just said its Black , Black Interior , Black Vinyl Top
WY 4speed

Looking forward to more info when he gets back .

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Old 07-22-2014, 08:21 AM
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Our new member and Ram Air II GTO owner is having difficulty getting a post through.
But he is trying.
They have new requirements for new members of PY now - i think they have to approve posts first.

A lil bit more info -

it IS the Car / Owner that Brian and i were trying to track down from the old post i found on HPP website.

Some prelim briefings from owner -

" build date is 5/29/68 out of Pontiac...what is cool about that is my birthday is 5/28 .
I have build sheet that was found under carpet by drivers seat.
Also paper work from PHS.
... 38 yrs I have owned this car. Heck I was 22 yrs old when I picked it up long haired hippie blowing off big block Chevys and Ford's or what ever else was around back then...lol "


This is going to be pretty damd Kool - - i do believe

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Old 07-22-2014, 08:32 AM
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This is the latest running total.
If i missed anything - or you know of anything concrete - please advise.

At last report - PHS has filled requests for 23 separate Ram Air II GTO's
4 of those have been Convertibles.
Unknown how many of the 23 were cars - or just engine blocks.
We do know that likely 3 at minimum - were just engines


1. Convertible Black- Black top- Gold interior - 4spd
Unrestored excellent survivor - high option - 56k miles
Sold at Mecum for 165k in 2011 or 2012
Documented BHC on PY

2. Convertible Burgandy- White top- White interior - 4spd
Being Frame Off Restored - well optioned
John in Ohio
Documented BHC on PY

3. Convertible Gold - Gold interior - Blk top - Automatic
Low mile survivor with cosmetic resto
Rob L in Illinois
documented

4. Convertible Red - Blk top - Blk interior - 4spd
Mark of Mich. his cousin bought it New. Been sold.

5. Blue - Blue interior - Automatic
Numbers match, intact survivor
Gary Oklahoma
documented

6. VooDoo Green - Black interior - Automatic
Project - missing origial drivetrain - but has the Right Stuff to put it back together
Chris "The Boss" in Conn. - bought from Gary Okla
Documented BHC on PY

7. VooDoo Green - Black Vinyl top - Black interior 4spd
Matching #s original survivor - has now been frame off restored by Greg Teeters
previously owned by Gary Oklahoma
Sold to Kevin in Seattle
documented

8. VooDoo Green - Black interior - 4spd
Brian OhiO
Documented BHC on PY

9. Aegena Blue - Black interior - 4spd
Bought on eBay as a project / parts car - was left outside with no front clip
Turns out as Matching #s Ram2 - parked since 1972 with 52k miles
Currently undergoing frame-off resto by owner
PY member gto66yellow in Indiana
documented
*Frame Off Resto is complete.

10. VooDoo Green - Gold interior - 4spd
project car being frame off restored by owner
now in Georgia - PY member gahotrods
Documented BHC on PY

11. Red - Blk interior - Blk Vinyl top - 4spd
Real Good above driver quality - older resto
Sold at Mecum auction Summer 2012
From Salmon Brothers Collection

12. VooDoo Green - Blk interior - Blk vinyl top - 4spd
Same owner since early 80's
Only recently discovered the car was factory Ram Air II (thanks Paul)
Non-original engine and converted to Automatic - prior to his ownership
Frame-Off Restoration is now planned.
Mark in OhiO - info supplied by PY member PaulatFast
Documented

13. Red - Red interior - Automatic
RedBull in Michigan
Documented BHC on PY

14. Black - White interior - 4spd
project car
EightBall - in corner pocket at Paul's
BHC has been verified by current owner/PY member

15. VooDoo Green with Black interior - 4spd
Hood Tach, AM-FM
Awaiting further details
Car is located somewhere

16. Black - Black Interior - Black Vinyl Top
WY 4 speed
The Deuce of Spades
Owned by GTOWolf
Faktry Buildsheet and PHS documents - built 5/29/68 @ Pontiac Plant



== == == == == == == == == ==


Unverified Potentials

Black - Black V.Top - White Interior - 4spd
located Way out Westward
further details may or may not be shared with us - have to wait and see.
Very private owner.


Black with Gold Interior
4 speed
Spotted at car show at Summit Racing facility in Georgia by PY member 74SDformula



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*MIA Car - Knafel in Ohio 68 GTO Ram2 Tin Indian Race Car
appears to be White body with Black interior - 4spd


*MIA Car - Stephen Pontiac in Conn. 68 GTO Ram2 Race Car
Mayfair Maize - 4spd - Endura Delete / Chrome Nose


* MIA Body -
complete LongBlock
Alpine Blue - Automatic
Documented BHC on PY

* MIA Body -
block only
Gold - Blk interior 4spd
Documented BHC on PY
Block / engine sold on eBay

* MIA Body -
block only
Gold - Gold interior 4spd
Documented BHC on PY
Block belongs to PY member in GA.

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Old 07-22-2014, 08:40 AM
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Just wanted to point out -
out of the 23 cars documented by PHS
we have ourselves accounted for...

16 verified
2 unverified
3 engines (VIN)

= potentially 21 units of the 23

Wasn't the grand total something like
199 4 speeds
47 Automagicals

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Old 07-22-2014, 05:04 PM
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Not a high survivor ratio but no stripes & no wings so nobody knew they were special.

He should trade me - mine was invoiced on his birthday.

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By any chance is this one accounted for? I sent him an email and he claims its a real RAII with a RAIV top end.

http://forums.highperformancepontiac...2-ram-air-gto/

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Old 07-22-2014, 10:11 PM
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Yes , sort of ... it was just added to the list this morning .
Car #16

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Old 07-22-2014, 10:25 PM
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Great.. I sent him an email the other day and told him about this thread!

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9.77 @ 135 mph 464 Stage 1
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7.90 @ 171 mph 572 Stage 4
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Old 07-23-2014, 07:51 AM
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Is that not the same guy you mentioned in post #180 Baron?

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Old 07-23-2014, 01:32 PM
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Yes it is Greg.
In fact we have been hoping to find him since post #48 in Oct 2012. lol

Quote:
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Chasing a lead on another Michigan Deuce that i found info about on another website.
Unknown color / options / condition

Only know this :
it lives in Michigan
sold new through PMD Retail Store
same owner since 1976
WY block code
Had #722 69 IV heads in place when bought in 76 - and still in place as of 1 year ago.

Brian S. has attempted to contact the owner through the HPP website about a week ago. No word as of yet.

His screen name on HPP is gto wolf or gtowolf
BHC to the car is his avatar, but its too small to translate it.

If anyone knows the owner, would be great to hear more from him about the car.
And would gladly verify/document his BHC info for him if he would share with us.

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Old 07-23-2014, 02:51 PM
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Kyle suggested that I call the guy who was at the Summit show but I'm kinda shy about calling folks I've never met and asking about their rare automobiles...
If I ever get to one of those cruises, I'll certainly try to meet him though.

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This car was back last night. Unfortunately I got there late and was only able to stay a few minutes. Did not see the owner. Greg, I also sent the contact info to BVZ. BVZ, have you been able to reach the owner to confirm or deny?
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Old 07-29-2014, 08:58 AM
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So Kyle, did the owner actually claim RAII status or what?
Man, that is a tough looking car. Rally I's, Factory 8-track, straight shift and no console.. Sure would like to see that car. Wonder why he's never brought it to BOP?

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Greg, I guess you missed the out of state plate. He has only recently moved to this area. In talking with him originally he said it was the real deal.

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Old 07-29-2014, 02:27 PM
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I do agree it could be or not. Talking with people about their car. Its yes its real and numbers.
Then, you look under hood, phs and see things that make you wonder....

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Old 07-29-2014, 03:33 PM
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Yeah, I missed that detail Kyle. I look forward to seeing it sometime. When does the cruise season end at Summit?

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Old 07-30-2014, 12:29 AM
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BVZ, have you been able to reach the owner to confirm or deny?
It slipped my mind.
Will try to make contact tomorrow evening .

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Old 07-30-2014, 10:08 PM
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Just got off the phone with the owner of the Black/Gold car that Kyle spotted at Summit show. Really nice guy and full blooded Pontiac veteran .

Car is the Real Deal RamAir 2 4spd
He has owned it since 1981
Has all the original paperwork - he bought it from the original owner.
36,000 actual original miles

Also owns a 70 GTO Red/Black 455 RamAir 3spd/M13 with A/C - also bought from original owner.

70 TA Blue/Blue Auto on Column with A/C .
Freak car that came new with a woodgrain dash

He is away but said he would try to get on here soon and join us.
And tell about The Deuce


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Old 07-30-2014, 10:18 PM
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This is the latest running total.
If i missed anything - or you know of anything concrete - please advise.

At last report - PHS has filled requests for 23 separate Ram Air II GTO's
4 of those have been Convertibles.
Unknown how many of the 23 were cars - or just engine blocks.
We do know that likely 3 at minimum - were just engines


1. Convertible Black- Black top- Gold interior - 4spd
Unrestored excellent survivor - high option - 56k miles
Sold at Mecum for 165k in 2011 or 2012
Documented BHC on PY

2. Convertible Burgandy- White top- White interior - 4spd
Being Frame Off Restored - well optioned
John in Ohio
Documented BHC on PY

3. Convertible Gold - Gold interior - Blk top - Automatic
Low mile survivor with cosmetic resto
Rob L in Illinois
documented

4. Convertible Red - Blk top - Blk interior - 4spd
Mark of Mich. his cousin bought it New. Been sold.

5. Blue - Blue interior - Automatic
Numbers match, intact survivor
Gary Oklahoma
documented

6. VooDoo Green - Black interior - Automatic
Project - missing origial drivetrain - but has the Right Stuff to put it back together
Chris "The Boss" in Conn. - bought from Gary Okla
Documented BHC on PY

7. VooDoo Green - Black Vinyl top - Black interior 4spd
Matching #s original survivor - has now been frame off restored by Greg Teeters
previously owned by Gary Oklahoma
Sold to Kevin in Seattle
documented

8. VooDoo Green - Black interior - 4spd
Brian OhiO
Documented BHC on PY

9. Aegena Blue - Black interior - 4spd
Bought on eBay as a project / parts car - was left outside with no front clip
Turns out as Matching #s Ram2 - parked since 1972 with 52k miles
Currently undergoing frame-off resto by owner
PY member gto66yellow in Indiana
documented
*Frame Off Resto is complete.

10. VooDoo Green - Gold interior - 4spd
project car being frame off restored by owner
now in Georgia - PY member gahotrods
Documented BHC on PY

11. Red - Blk interior - Blk Vinyl top - 4spd
Real Good above driver quality - older resto
Sold at Mecum auction Summer 2012
From Salmon Brothers Collection

12. VooDoo Green - Blk interior - Blk vinyl top - 4spd
Same owner since early 80's
Only recently discovered the car was factory Ram Air II (thanks Paul)
Non-original engine and converted to Automatic - prior to his ownership
Frame-Off Restoration is now planned.
Mark in OhiO - info supplied by PY member PaulatFast
Documented

13. Red - Red interior - Automatic
RedBull in Michigan
Documented BHC on PY

14. Black - White interior - 4spd
project car
EightBall - in corner pocket at Paul's
BHC has been verified by current owner/PY member

15. VooDoo Green with Black interior - 4spd
Hood Tach, AM-FM
Awaiting further details
Car is located somewhere

16. Black - Black Interior - Black Vinyl Top
WY 4 speed
The Deuce of Spades
Owned by GTOWolf
Faktry Buildsheet and PHS documents - built 5/29/68 @ Pontiac Plant

17. Black - Gold Interior - 4spd
36,000 actual miles - 2nd owner since 1981
Very well optioned
Currently located in Georgia
All original paperwork from original owner

== == == == == == == == == ==


Unverified Potentials

Black - Black V.Top - White Interior - 4spd
located Way out Westward
further details may or may not be shared with us - have to wait and see.
Very private owner.


= = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = =

*MIA Car - Knafel in Ohio 68 GTO Ram2 Tin Indian Race Car
appears to be White body with Black interior - 4spd


*MIA Car - Stephen Pontiac in Conn. 68 GTO Ram2 Race Car
Mayfair Maize - 4spd - Endura Delete / Chrome Nose


* MIA Body -
complete LongBlock
Alpine Blue - Automatic
Documented BHC on PY

* MIA Body -
block only
Gold - Blk interior 4spd
Documented BHC on PY
Block / engine sold on eBay

* MIA Body -
block only
Gold - Gold interior 4spd
Documented BHC on PY
Block belongs to PY member in GA.

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