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Old 12-15-2014, 08:27 PM
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Been a while, since I've been here folks
Looking like I might be trading my 92 Twin Turbo Firebird I built
Far a 1970 Tempest project.. Supposedly the car is a T-37 car.
I'm thinking about paying the PHS for the car. but from what I'm hearing so far.....
There's really no way to know for sure, since most T-37's were done at the dealer?

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Old 12-15-2014, 09:04 PM
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i'm no expert but I think "T37" was a new name for "Tempest"; an entry level "A" body; still cool tho..
perhaps you meant "GT37"? I don't think they made those till 71?
anyways...welcome back.

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Old 12-15-2014, 10:18 PM
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Marty.
Welcome back and to the T-37 club.
I have a '70 WS 4 bolt block w/caps that I may be persuaded to part with. Or maybe a '73 400 2 bolt block. Give me a call sometime. I hope to make the PDX swap meet this next year.

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Old 12-15-2014, 10:47 PM
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Been a while, since I've been here folks
Looking like I might be trading my 92 Twin Turbo Firebird I built
Far a 1970 Tempest project.. Supposedly the car is a T-37 car.
I'm thinking about paying the PHS for the car. but from what I'm hearing so far.....
There's really no way to know for sure, since most T-37's were done at the dealer?
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Old 12-15-2014, 11:14 PM
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check out this site for info.

http://www.gt-37.org/

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Old 12-16-2014, 12:48 AM
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The car I'm trading for has (2) motors
A 350, and 400
The lower fender emblems say 350..
BUT.... I still love 428's!!!
So I just might have to find a small journal crank, and some 428 slugs...
We are trying to make the swap happen this Wednesday..

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Old 12-16-2014, 12:53 AM
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From what I've been able to learn so far.. Only around 1,100 GT-37 cars were ever made for 1970..
The car I'm getting is a Hardtop, of which approximately 20,000 were made vs the 11,000 cpes

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Old 12-16-2014, 02:08 AM
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Welcome back Marty.

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Old 12-16-2014, 12:41 PM
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Don't be confused by the year to year badging changes.

In '70, Pontiac offered the A body in 4 Model Series.

The Tempest, Lemans, Lemans Sport, and GTO.

The lowest priced series was the 33 Series Tempest, offered in two Body Styles, 2 Dr. post Coupe and 4 dr. Sedan.

At mid year (Feb), PMD introduced a 2 dr. Hardtop Coupe in the Tempest Series and called it the Tempest T-37. Presumably the T stood for "Tempest" and the "37" referred to the fact that the 2 Dr. Hardtop Coupe was designated as Body Style 37.

My recollection is fuzzy whether the T-37 badging was used in '70 except on the 2 dr. Hardtop Coupe. PMD may have begun to add T-37 badging to the 2 dr. post Coupe at the same time as the Hardtop Coupe was introduced.

A short while later they also offered a special sport/appearance option for the Tempest T-37, the GT-37 Group option. When introduced in the spring, they allowed it as an option for both the Tempest T-37 2 dr. Hardtop Coupe and the 2 dr. post Coupe (Body Style 27).

'71, they tinkered with the model names again, the Tempest nameplate was dropped altogether. The '71 low end model series was the T-37 and since it was applied to more than just the 2 dr. Hardtop Coupe, the designation origin was thoroughly blurred by then.

I would say no '70 Tempest T-37 was "done at the dealer", would be little reason to do so except perhaps to "freshen" a 2 dr. post Coupe that was sitting on the lot awhile, if in fact newer post Coupe builds were coming thru with the added T-37 badging.

I doubt that any '70 had the GT-37 package added at the dealer either. Perhaps some stripes and decals were added, but not the full package.

The '70 GT-37 was kinda neat but except for the decals, badging, and factory hood pins, I think all of the package was available as individual options for any Pontiac A body.

Unless yours shows evidence of the specific GT-37 items, likely it was built without that Group option. But since it is a 2 dr. Hardtop Coupe, it was definitely built as a Tempest T-37 and carried that badging from the factory since all of the Hardtop Coupes were so designated and badged from their Feb introduction.

I believe a major motivation for the GT-37 option was to offer a "stealth" GTO that might have been cheaper to insure but appeal to the youth market with some added appearance pizzazz.

Welcome back and sounds like you have a fun project in the making!

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Old 12-16-2014, 03:57 PM
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Lets see pictures of this car!

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Old 12-16-2014, 08:02 PM
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it's pretty ghetto looking yet, 80's style pro street paint job, complete with "disco" velour cloth trim panels..
I'm supposed to take actual delivery of it tomorrow.. Once that happens, (and i figure out how) I'll definitely post a couple pics

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Old 12-16-2014, 08:34 PM
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it's pretty ghetto looking yet, 80's style pro street paint job, complete with "disco" velour cloth trim panels..
I'm supposed to take actual delivery of it tomorrow.. Once that happens, (and i figure out how) I'll definitely post a couple pics
IIRC - "Crushed Velour" was the epitome of "that 'styling' trend" aka: Disco Tech


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