[6TEE8GTO]

Originally Posted by Evil Stu

From a short an unscientific troll through ebay and local shows I estimate that 7648 of the original 618 OO Judges still exist.

Thanks. I just spit my coffee out all over my iPad.... LOL

[6TEE8GTO]

In keeping with the theme of this topic- it was said that 1970 Judge sales were weak because Pontiac had been using "A bland Polar White Judge in early advertising, and it wasn't until they started offering the Orbit Orange paint that sales took off"

If this is true, why then isn't OO the most common color?

[mech-head]

Originally Posted by Half-Inch Stud

My Brother's authentic OO, authentic Sandlewood (stunning interior) is still avail. It'successfully painted & Striped. I restored the wiring harnesses, and did the post-paint assy.

It needs what you already have. He can't afford to put air in the tires.

Now, I own this OO Judge. I have a code correct block at the machine shop now.

Last fall a local mustang club officer saw me preparing it for storage. He invited me to their final outing, and saved me a spot among the stangs. I received more attention than anybody, and gathered quite a crowd. Car people are great.

[Diego]

Originally Posted by 6TEE8GTO

If this is true, why then isn't OO the most common color?

Orbit Orange just may be the most popular color for a Judge, but it's probably neck and neck with white and red and maybe another color too.

In the attachment are the colors as tabulated by Fred Simmonds in 1989. From what I can gather (I haven't done the math in years), they don't total to final GTO production or they don't take into account special-order colors, so I dunno.

I think from this doc, we can assume 1/6 of Judges were OO.

[MCronkGTO]

Well I know one that won't be on the list of survivors. I parted out a 70 OO RAIV 4 speed car back in the stone age (B.I Before Internet). Had a black interior. Long story on that car and some may have heard me tell it so I won't bore you. I had seen the car in the early 80's and my brother-in-law new the kid whose dad bought it for him on his 16th birthday! I bought it to get the RAIV head for my race car! LOL!

MarkC

[6TEE8GTO]

Originally Posted by Diego

Orbit Orange just may be the most popular color for a Judge, but it's probably neck and neck with white and red and maybe another color too.

In the attachment are the colors as tabulated by Fred Simmonds in 1989. From what I can gather (I haven't done the math in years), they don't total to final GTO production or they don't take into account special-order colors, so I dunno.

I think from this doc, we can assume 1/6 of Judges were OO.

Thanks for posting. It does not define which were Judges other than the hood tach math?
Sure are a lot of Grenada Gold GTOs in 1970....

[Diego]

Well, I think it is safe to assume all of the OO cars listed were Judges.

[johnta1]

At least from the start of OO it was a Judge color only.
Don't know if/when they might have made it available to the GTO.
(like Carousel Red originally in 69)

[steve v]

There was an OO 70 GTO convert for sale a few years ago on CL in this area, I spoke with the seller & had him read the data plate to me confirming the color code.

While most OO GTOs were likely Judges I don't think we can say they all were.

[The Boss]

Originally Posted by Diego

Well, I think it is safe to assume all of the OO cars listed were Judges.

Don't bet your life on it - this IS Pontiac, remember?

[Jason67]

This list from the Judge Registry has a disclaimer to take with a grain of salt.
Hardtops:
Polar White --------------- 853
Orbit Orange ------------- 575
Atoll Blue ------------- 486
Cardinal Red ------------- 389
Palladium Silver ---------- 356
Granda Gold ------------- 276
Pepper Green ------------- 258
Bermuda Blue ------------- 131
Starlight Black ----------- 125
Polar White Black Spoiler-- 51
Serria Yellow ------------- 46
Palisade Green ------------ 28
Baja Gold ---------------- 26
Palamino Copper ----------- 18
Burgundy ------------------ 7
Daytona Yellow ------------ 2
Mint Turquoise ------------ 2

Convertibles:
Polar White ------- 39
Orbit Orange ------- 36
Cardinal Red ------- 20
Starlight Black ---- 15
Atoll Blue --------- 12
Pepper Green ------- 11
Bermuda Blue ------- 9
Granda Gold -------- 7
Palladium Silver --- 6
Serria Yellow ----- 6
Palisade Green ----- 3
Palamino Copper ---- 2
Daytona Yellow ----- 1
Burgundy ----------- 1

So if the list is correct 7 non-Judge GTOs were OO. I believe there was an OO GTO vert in Collectable Automobiles mag in their GTO feature article that was original, circa 1988.

[birdsandgoats]

What about Verdoro Green ?

[Jason67]

Originally Posted by birdsandgoats

What about Verdoro Green ?

See, blows those numbers out of the water Good catch.

[Diego]

Originally Posted by The Boss

Don't bet your life on it - this IS Pontiac, remember?

Funny, as Mopar people like to think their cars are more special, often saying, "Ma Mopar would build ANYTHING!"

Anyway, not betting my life on it, but since special-order colors are not taken into account, I don't see why regular GTOs in OO would be included.

Per Jason's post on the OO non-Judge, that photo is from 1984 or before and was touted as a Judge. It didn't have the stripes and, if I recall, it had a GTO decal but it had the black scoop boots. No saying what it is....

[Guilty]

I know of 4 Mint Turquoise Judges, so I'm thinking those numbers aren't 100% correct. And all 4 of those are hardtops.

[Jason67]

I think too the WT7 Judges would be part of the Polar White #s and not added in as a separate color. Shows they are all hardtops too, which is hard to believe.

I probably shouldn't have put that info in this post since its incorrect and just adds confusion, but like I said its posted on the Judge Registry along with the grain of salt disclaimer...Appears it may be the whole shaker

[Jason67]

[QUOTE=Diego;5359054Per Jason's post on the OO non-Judge, that photo is from 1984 or before and was touted as a Judge. It didn't have the stripes and, if I recall, it had a GTO decal but it had the black scoop boots. No saying what it is....[/QUOTE]

Good memory Diego! I found the magazine. Has silver grilles too, and a wing. (the vert on the bottom)

[post toastie]

My burgundy 70 is originally an OO 4 speed car.