[Alvin]

Ran across this one in the collection I'd forgotten about:

HUM and STRUM along with CHET - CHET ATKINS
Recorded in Nashville, Tennessee, February 1, 3, and 5, 1959.
Recording Engineer: Bob Farris. Produced by Chet Atkins.
RCA Victor Black Label "TRUE STEREOPHONIC RECORD"

Includes "a removable song book the words for each song and the proper cords..."
For any fellow Chet fans here's the 12 songs:

Side 1
In the Good Old Summertime
Beautiful Brown Eyes
The Prisoner's Song
Titanic
Tennessee Waltz
Sweet Bunch of Daisies

Side 2
John Henry
Birmingham Jail
Music! Music! Music!
Cold, Cold, Heart
Bill Bailey
Goodnight Irene

Price tag is .90 cents!

[61 389-348]

Originally Posted by bird72

and Bloomfield and Eric C and Peter Green and Albert King and early Johnny Winter and Freddie King and more..... could keep going.... they old stuff is pretty amazing still. Go deeper Elmore James, Howlin Wolf, Robert Johnson, Odetta, I like digging into the roots of it all...

you mention Mick Taylor...... he is one of the most tasteful players around. Stones era? The best.

Tip for guitar afficiandos: check out Jack Pearson. Touring never agreed with him I think. Otherwise he could be gigantic.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VzmsFb7w8f8

Oh man, that's great!!!

[61 389-348]

Originally Posted by Half-Inch Stud

Yes indeed. The likes of Johm Mayall, Gary Moore, Jack Bruce, Mick Taylor, Allman Bros, (some 65-73 Zappa), Robin Trower music, and probably more along their theme;

all their music can be played for hours, days, seasons while getting work& home chores done.

Sonny Rollins, Way Out West, is on at the moment while I work away.

Music on a background level helps me concentrate through my A.D.D. to actually get something done provided there's no lyrics in the material. The human voice used as a musical instrument is fine though.

And speaking of human voice ... the best, by far, male vocal recording I've ever heard are these two gospel albums ... Fairfield Four, Wreckin Down the House and Standing in the Safety Zone. If you have a system that images well, there are some tricks here (I'm sure all by accident) that get the attention of someone not familiar with what conventional two channel audio will do. Even the mp3 downloads from iTunes sound great. Most highly recommended.

https://youtu.be/hvaeIxuEdVs

https://youtu.be/gXVCxeVga3E
at min 2:17 tell me what you hear directly to your left and slightly behind you. Nope, no speaker over there so how's it do that? Even on your computer speakers you're likely to hear it.

https://youtu.be/8SR1ZjBDBvA

[61 389-348]

And in the same genre, another one that's just about as good

Blind Boys of Alabama

https://youtu.be/0SmthYxI5aA

https://youtu.be/pR1tOVd4PCk

[61 389-348]

not uncommon in a decent system to hear individual voices up in the sound stage complete with bodies and accurate placement right to left and front to back, but it's unusual to hear something this far outside the outer boundaries of your speakers' sound-stage and in this instance, far to the left and slightly behind you.

[bird72]

Mr 61 you seem to explain it well and really hear the nuances that good stereo can do with analog. I know I'm in the bottom feeder grade of systems compared to the purist level but I am fine with that. But even on my cobbled together deal, I can hear some of what you discuss. I have tried to explain to people the piano that seems to come in at off right, kind of in back not front. If they have never heard something akin, or even close, the typical response involves glazed eyes, looks of scrutiny at my eyes, and quick changing of the subject. It probably is similar to the response when telling folk about your personal alien abduction experience. Or stint in prison. I also believe some people can't hear the same as others. I am color defiecient (blind). I see color so I have no idea what it is, except I can't identify many colors, I can wear clothes that clash, and most people with red hair I can't tell. But Hey!!! I see color, and I am here to tell you that painting you rave about, due to colors, sucks!!!!!!!!!! Kinda like that (analogy of the feeble).....

so 61, if you haven't tried it, spring your analog analysis on a stranger in the check out line and let us know the response

[Half-Inch Stud]

Originally Posted by bird72

and Bloomfield and Eric C and Peter Green and Albert King and early Johnny Winter and Freddie King and more..... could keep going.... they old stuff is pretty amazing still. Go deeper Elmore James, Howlin Wolf, Robert Johnson, Odetta, I like digging into the roots of it all...

you mention Mick Taylor...... he is one of the most tasteful players around. Stones era? The best.

Tip for guitar afficiandos: check out Jack Pearson. Touring never agreed with him I think. Otherwise he could be gigantic.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VzmsFb7w8f8

Yea, all them, did we mention Yardbirds. My thoughts on Clapton end at Delaney & Bonnie or derrick ena Dominoes. Seems Clapton had justified grips with the drama that was within Cream, yet 1971+ has not grabbed my ear.

[61 389-348]

Originally Posted by bird72

Mr 61 you seem to explain it well and really hear the nuances that good stereo can do with analog. I know I'm in the bottom feeder grade of systems compared to the purist level but I am fine with that. But even on my cobbled together deal, I can hear some of what you discuss. I have tried to explain to people the piano that seems to come in at off right, kind of in back not front. If they have never heard something akin, or even close, the typical response involves glazed eyes, looks of scrutiny at my eyes, and quick changing of the subject. It probably is similar to the response when telling folk about your personal alien abduction experience. Or stint in prison. I also believe some people can't hear the same as others. I am color defiecient (blind). I see color so I have no idea what it is, except I can't identify many colors, I can wear clothes that clash, and most people with red hair I can't tell. But Hey!!! I see color, and I am here to tell you that painting you rave about, due to colors, sucks!!!!!!!!!! Kinda like that (analogy of the feeble).....

so 61, if you haven't tried it, spring your analog analysis on a stranger in the check out line and let us know the response

Cheaper, more current speakers will do it too, such as those $89 ea (when on sale) Pioneer FS52s. Speaker technology has come a very long ways over the last decade or so. What the high end could do 15 - 20 years ago, the technology and knowledge has filtered down to the cheaper stuff. In fact those super cheap Pioneers will image very well provided they're setup properly. What they sacrifice is the size of the sound stage, the ability to go real loud, bottom half octave, and some level of detail, but as far as neutrality and imaging with a smaller sound-stage goes for a smaller room, they're killer for the money spent.

What the big serious stuff of today does is gives you the wave front and size of the original acoustic instrument so you not only have the accurate, uncolored sound of a cello or baritone sax, etc., but you also have the three dimensional resonant body of that instrument or vocalist. Hard to explain, but with familiarity, spooky to hear.

"If they have never heard something akin, or even close, the typical response involves glazed eyes"

We sorta did something like that last night. Grandson came over to make dinner with me and brought two of his friends. Ricer, fart can Honduh driving Grandson tries real hard not to be interested, but one of his friends is getting curious about "vinyls" as he and they call it nowadays. He likes the crackly sound layered over the realism behind it. I told him the crackly, pops. bangs and clicks don't have to be part of it.

After dinner, I played the Fairfield Four that I linked above, and again, it was as it always is, with them wondering why they're not hearing anything at all coming 'out' of the speakers. One commented that they all (the vocalists) sound spread apart and that it sounded like it was way back about 20' versus anywhere near the plane where the speakers were. I showed them the youtube of them performing live, then we went back down to listen, and they started to get what this is all about ... well, guess what, they are all spread apart.

It's a completely new paradigm for them because they've never heard live acoustic music before .... just tweet tweet boom boom at 120 BPM with the license plate rattling of off their honduhs.

None of them and no one they know plays a musical instrument. Back in the day when I was kid, we almost all did. I played a tenor and baritone saxophone (that's why I'm a chapstick addict to this day). Same goes for music as it does with interest in the collector cars we love. It's mostly lost. I'm doing my wee little part to see that it isn't.

And regarding the 'crackly sound' the one kid professed to liking, I took an old early 50s mono Mercury I bought used and hadn't cleaned yet and played it cleaned with just the diskwasher brush. Yep, plenty of the noise he thought he would hear. This one needed some work and I had to clean it twice through the Okki Nokki, but once done the noise was almost gone with only a couple of light ticks on that side of the record.

So I'm sorta like a missionary with both the audio and the old cars to do my part in saving these hobbies for future generations.

[Half-Inch Stud]

Originally Posted by 61 389-348

Sonny Rollins, Way Out West, is on at the moment while I work away.

Music on a background level helps me concentrate through my A.D.D. to actually get something done provided there's no lyrics in the material. The human voice used as a musical instrument is fine though.

And speaking of human voice ... the best, by far, male vocal recording I've ever heard are these two gospel albums ... Fairfield Four, Wreckin ....

https://youtu.be/gXVCxeVga3E
at min 2:17 tell me what you hear directly to your left and slightly behind you. Nope, no speaker over there so how's it do that? Even on your computer speakers you're likely to hear it.

https://youtu.be/8SR1ZjBDBvA

AHHHHH, at 2:17 the voice came out of the floor about a foot in front of my feet.
Neat . We call that Barbershop quartet up here.


holy cow: that third link goes though my 15" woofers with full Bass enhancement Sounding CLEAN!
kicked the Frazier stacks in out for Vocal out front or not; a real good Sound Engr mixed that huh.

[61 389-348]

Originally Posted by Half-Inch Stud

AHHHHH, at 2:17 the voice came out of the floor about a foot in front of my feet.
Neat . We call that Barbershop quartet up here.


holy cow: that third link goes though my 15" woofers with full Bass enhancement Sounding CLEAN!
kicked the Frazier stacks in out for Vocal out front or not; a real good Sound Engr mixed that huh.

"Barbershop quartet"

Essentially is, but with gospel. And btw, there are some really good barbershop (acapella) recordings out there. But this is the best of the best until I find better.

"at 2:17 the voice came out of the floor about a foot in front of my feet."

Should be out way left, at about a 100 to 110 degree angle from where you're sitting because that's where he is when it was recorded. He's way at the left side and actually forward (toward the audience) of the mics used for the others, which can very clearly be heard. If it's not doing it, pull your speakers away from the front wall and you away from the back wall, but be careful of the 25 and 50% bass null point. I listen near field with speakers 38% from the front wall and me around that from the back wall. It's akin to a giant screen 3d movie. Wall to wall, ceiling to floor and very 3 dimensional. You should hear nothing coming out of your speakers. That's sorta like your 'projection' unit for really big screen TV. And it recreates an image for you that's seamless and as large as your room and on better recordings, will envelope you in that image.

[61 389-348]

https://youtu.be/d6RLI4YKMgQ

https://youtu.be/H7S_h0H_EpM

good short explanation

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Barber shop

https://youtu.be/uRu3CZfteyY

Great, but using only one mic so you don't get the spaciality that you do with the Fairfield Four with the affect of being spread out the width of the stage because that's where they were.

I don't think I made much sense with that one.

[MikeNoun]

Originally Posted by Half-Inch Stud

Yea, all them, did we mention Yardbirds. My thoughts on Clapton end at Delaney & Bonnie or derrick ena Dominoes. Seems Clapton had justified grips with the drama that was within Cream, yet 1971+ has not grabbed my ear.

Wow, this is a coincidence, I was just talking to a friend of mine about Delaney & Bonnie.

This duo had some minor hits, and never attained much popularity, but musicians love them. Eric Clapton played with them, and preferred their music to his band Blind Faith. When George Harrison heard them, he immediately offered them a contract on Apple Records. What many people don't realize was that the album "On Tour With Eric Clapton", which was a Delaney & Bonnie album in 1970, had an incredible band backing them, including Eric Clapton, George Harrison, Leon Russell, Dave Mason, horn players that ended up playing with the Rolling Stones, and other members would form Derek and the Dominoes with Clapton.

George Harrison was still a Beatle when this happened (1969-1970), and he ended up going on tour, in a bus, with Delaney & Bonnie, Clapton, and Leon Russell, hitting clubs small venues around England. Harrison still had his super long hair and full beard like on the cover of The Beatles "Abbey Road" LP. He stayed in the background during these shows, happy to be on stage again, happy to play backup, and enjoying being in a band. This was all before The Beatles breakup, and before he recorded his signature "All Things Must Pass" album.

Super clear footage of this group, from Copenhagen in Dec, 1969 :https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y4DbsNsK3jY

Mike

[GT182]

I was at an antique store tonight and found a sh!t load of original LPs from the 60s up... for 5 bucks a piece. Bought two I didn't have that are in most excellent condition. "Get The Knack" and a "Christine McVie" solo LP. I haven't seen these two in the new expensive LPs.

[61 389-348]

Originally Posted by GT182

I was at an antique store tonight and found a sh!t load of original LPs from the 60s up... for 5 bucks a piece. Bought two I didn't have that are in most excellent condition. "Get The Knack" and a "Christine McVie" solo LP. I haven't seen these two in the new expensive LPs.

And obviously, watch estate sales, yard sales and Craigslist.

[bird72]

As for Delaney and Bonnie, Duane Allman was on some of their recordings and albums. Also, check out "Motel shot". It is a cool album based on the jamming and songs played on the road in motel rooms on tour.

Also, the cover of On Tour with Eric Clapton.... the cover shot..... whose feet are sticking out of the car window? Anyone know? I do.

[Half-Inch Stud]

Questions like that are easy; The answer is always Jim Morrison

[Alvin]

Repost from the "How sweet it is " - James Taylor gets a #1 record after 47 years! Thread

Originally Posted by The Boss

Saw him on the Flag tour - great artist!

Wow! So did I in Greensboro in 1979 IIRC? Will have to break out the original LP of Flag...among other JT's...and give them a spin on the turntable.

[Verdoro 68]

You all have inspired me. Picked up this guy this week

[bird72]

Nice Verdoro!!!!!!!!! I always have had a sweet spot for Marantz....