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Hello all - I am in the middle of a 1967 Firebird build. I am looking for a set of headers that fit WITHOUT mods for a Ram Air IV (722) round port heads. I would like 1 7/8" dia runners with a 3 1/2" dia collector setup that won't break the bank. Coated or uncoated. Any ideas? I am not interested in a cast iron setup BTW
Thanks in advance.
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Doug Van Affelen 1957 GMC Pickup 347 Pontiac Hydramatic (red) 1967 Firebird 400 Ram Air IV 4-spd Conv (red) 1967 Firebird 400 auto Conv (wht) 1967 Firebird 400 Ram Air III 4-spd Conv (blu) 1968 Firebird 400 auto HT (silver) planned RAV 1969 Trans Am 400 RAIII 4-spd (real) |
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You do know that almost all round port headers for the 1st gen have the passenger side tube go around the frame I believe?
Is that a problem? ![]()
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I have a 69 Bird with 722 heads. I'm running ceramic coated Doug's headers and they fit great with plenty of clearance everywhere. I did not have to ding them or modify them in any way, as a matter of fact the install was very easy. No tubes go around the subframe and I can fit an extra long oil filter. This is on a manual steering non-A/C car. I did purchase these headers about 10 yrs. ago before Doug's was purchased by Pertronix so I can't say how good they will fit today. The down side is that they are expensive but you get what you pay for.
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What's the tube size on yours, Andy?
Mine were racing headers BTW. (no street hookups) ![]()
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John Wallace - johnta1 Pontiac Power RULES !!! www.wallaceracing.com Winner of Top Class at Pontiac Nationals, 2004 Cordova Winner of Quick 16 At Ames 2004 Pontiac Tripower Nats KRE's MR-1 - 1st 5 second Pontiac block ever! "Every man has a right to his own opinion, but no man has a right to be wrong in his facts." "People demand freedom of speech to make up for the freedom of thought which they avoid." – Socrates |
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Tube size on my Doug's roundports is 1- 7/8".
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I have the old Indian Adventures headers, which fit very well. No kick out over the frame, they look like regular 4-tube headers, round port, 2" primaries and 3.5" slip fit collectors with street hookups. Don't know if Indian Adventures made these themselves, or had a header company make them to their specs.
I had a set of Hedman 1-7/8" tubes with 3" collectors that had the kickout over the frame. Lots of finessing and reworking to get those to fit. Mike
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Great feedback. Much appreciated. I just ordered a set of ceramic coated Doug Thorley headers for $744 from Jeg's. Looking forward to an eventless installation.
Thanks for all your inputs!
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Doug Van Affelen 1957 GMC Pickup 347 Pontiac Hydramatic (red) 1967 Firebird 400 Ram Air IV 4-spd Conv (red) 1967 Firebird 400 auto Conv (wht) 1967 Firebird 400 Ram Air III 4-spd Conv (blu) 1968 Firebird 400 auto HT (silver) planned RAV 1969 Trans Am 400 RAIII 4-spd (real) |
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ANDYA, are your headers for an auto or a stick???
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To be clear there is a difference between Doug's headers and Doug Thorley headers as they are separate companies. The ones that I'm referring to are Doug's part #D568.
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The chart on the Doug's website shows for both auto and stick, console not column shift. My car is a 4 speed.
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My bad. Doug's Headers D568
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Doug Van Affelen 1957 GMC Pickup 347 Pontiac Hydramatic (red) 1967 Firebird 400 Ram Air IV 4-spd Conv (red) 1967 Firebird 400 auto Conv (wht) 1967 Firebird 400 Ram Air III 4-spd Conv (blu) 1968 Firebird 400 auto HT (silver) planned RAV 1969 Trans Am 400 RAIII 4-spd (real) Last edited by 69ra3ta; 01-20-2016 at 02:52 AM. Reason: Error |
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Out of curiosity because I have a 67 with a set of round port E heads Im planning to use. What is the modification that has to be done to use headers with round ports on these cars? I have an auto/power steering/non AC car.
I wanted to use Long Branches but apparently those are hard to come by these days since RARE isnt producing them right now. So I may default to headers.
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Tubular automotive rock land mass. Makes a great RAIV header they've been making since 1969
http://www.manta.com/c/mmb4085/tubular-automotiveu
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