[KGTO]

Well its been forever since I have been on the board...

I have been wondering if anyone knows whether or not someone either in the Pontiac world or other has taken a Eaton/Magnuson screw blower and installed it on traditional V8, convert it to EFI? Wondering what kind of intake could be used and I think (although I haven't researched it enough yet) that it could possibly fit under the hood too.

Anyone?

[jonathonar89]

Probably have to build your own intake manifold from sheetmetal then install some injector bungs.

Why not one of the bolt on screw blowers? You can throw on a TBI unit from FAST, FiTech, etc.

[KGTO]

Well I have been out of the loop for a few years so I'll need to catch up. Are you talking a Whipple? Two reasons for the Magnuson is that it should be a side inlet, not top and my buddy is a dealer

[BruceWilkie]

Maybe clear hood...if there are BBC A bodies with them underhood it should be doable. Intake can be made from a modified Offy dual quad.

[Tom Vaught]

A Eaton supercharger is not a screw Supercharger, just a High Helix twisted rotor Supercharger. They are a "fancy rotor" Positive Displacement supercharger (just like a Roots supercharger is also a Positive Displacement supercharger).

Magnuson Superchargers use the Eaton Supercharger "Guts" in their superchargers.

Lysholm and Whipple are true Screw Superchargers (Internal Compression superchargers). They are "happy" around 18,000 supercharger rpm.

So if the OP wants a Eaton or Magnuson supercharger he will be getting a supercharger designed to be "happy" around 14,000 supercharger rpm.

The Whipple Superchargers also have a lot more selection as far as a High HP unit. For a street car a Eaton supercharger or Magnuson Supercharger will be fine.

Tom V.

[Jack Gifford]

Any reason not to use a BDS Pontiac blower manifold and simply adapt the Magnason to it?

[krisr]

Originally Posted by Jack Gifford

Any reason not to use a BDS Pontiac blower manifold and simply adapt the Magnason to it?

I had thought about doing exactly this with a 2300 maggie.

[GTOGEORGE]

Originally Posted by Jack Gifford

Any reason not to use a BDS Pontiac blower manifold and simply adapt the Magnason to it?

I've used an BDS blower intake a couple of time to adapt a smaller blower (B & M, Holley/Weind street chargers to a Pontiac engine. I've spun those street chargers to over 13,000 rpm.....no problem. They were built to go well over 100,000 miles on the street!


GTO George

[twooldgoats]

Hi Ken,

The BDS manifold would be ideal for a street application. It's very low profile--- the air out of the supercharger goes uphill to the heads!

Jim

[KGTO]

Hi Jim, I think I recognize some parts in your picture awesome pic....thanks for all the responses. I did think of the BDS intake but wasn't sure if they are still readily available. I know they are pretty low profile too. I had one once and got rid of it.

There should be some dimensional specs somewhere on the net for those eaton blowers right? I wonder if there would be enough room for injectors on the runners (fuel rail)

Keep in mind I want to keep it under the hood too

[GTOGEORGE]

I was able to squeeze a 174 B & M street charger under the hood of my wife's 79 TA using a BDS blower intake manifold, it took a TA Dude Scoop from Ken Keefer (Mr. Pontiac Dude)
but I squeezed it under the hood!


GTO George

[KGTO]

Reviving an old thread....

What would be a good EFI system to use for this?

[Tom Vaught]

You would need a EFI system that would be compatible with Boost and the FAST and Holley systems, I believe, both are. Adding Injector Bosses and fuel rails is fairly if you have access to welding capabilities and the BDS blower intake manifold.

You could put the injectors up high to cool the supercharger but not sure if the latest Magnason unit likes liquid going thru it. The older stuff would work with carbs.

Sounds like a great Project. Too bad you could not find one of the old Dual Supercharger Magnason set-ups. There used to be lots of pictures of this stuff but the people are wiping out the pics on many of the old threads unless you pay them $350.00 each year.

Tom V.

[KGTO]

Is the footprint of the magnuson the same as other roots blowers? I assumed it would be different...seems to me I found some specs on a unit once before. I am also wondering how wide the housing is because if I recall a regular roots blower on a BDS intake took up a lot of room,,,you could add port nozzles but it was very tight. Maybe there would be more room for the fuel rail with the maggie.

That dual blower is pretty wild!

[Tom Vaught]

Originally Posted by KGTO

That dual blower is pretty wild!

Jerry M sold a bunch of them at one time and they were good pieces and well engineered.

Main Benefit was the typical Eaton Style Supercharger at the times was a 90 cubic inch per revolution unit.

A very long 180 cubic inch unit PROTOTYPE was made and had serious heat issues with that length and package sucked.

Jerry M did his deal and the unit could move 180 cid per revolution and twice the power of the stock Eaton unit. So it the 90 cubic inch Eaton was designed for a 3.8L engine to run 6000 rpm then a dual 90 unit could feed a 7.6L engine to 6,000 rpm and he designed them for a small block application (max 400 cid).

So he had a sweet set-up that worked well and was very unique in appearance.

Tom V.

RIP Jerry (He was a good guy to talk to)

http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/lat...?pid=174337495

[KGTO]

That was a great obit, must have been a great guy. Thanks for the info Tom.

[Tom Vaught]

You have had several posts on intake manifolds now and some from me on the Magnuson unit. Have not looked at the website since Jerry sold it to see what their offerings are.

Any specific Magnuson unit you are interested in KGTO?

[GTOGEORGE]

B & M..........er Weiand 177 street charger........proven.....BY ME!


GTO George

[Tom Vaught]

Can't read Dumaze?

1) His buddy is hooked up with Magnuson.

2) He doesn't care about your B & M or Weiand 177 street charger history.

3) You did not know Jerry Magnuson or ever do anything with Jerry's S/C units
and the thread SPECIFICALLY SAYS "MAGNUSON ON A 67 GTO".

So piss off George.

Tom V.

[GTOGEORGE]

Originally Posted by Tom Vaught

Can't read Dumaze?

1) His buddy is hooked up with Magnuson.

2) He doesn't care about your B & M or Weiand 177 street charger history.

3) You did not know Jerry Magnuson or ever do anything with Jerry's S/C units
and the thread SPECIFICALLY SAYS "MAGNUSON ON A 67 GTO".

So piss off George.

Tom V.

Hey "J_rk Off" just trying to pass down some information on another option, thank you very much!


GTO George