[300deluxe]

64 to 64, I think the voting is finally done.

[b-man]

If it makes you feel better.......

[will slow gto]

Crazy to think how much closer 1986 is to the 60s than it is to today.

[68ragtop]

Originally Posted by will slow gto

Crazy to think how much closer 1986 is to the 60s than it is to today.

I have a few survivor cars from the 80s' I still think of them as "not that old" of cars. But when I drive them, they get looks now from some of the younger generations like most of us look at 60's muscle. Perspective is everything with ours cars & it keeps sloooowly changing.

[north]

I weighed my 69 LeMans front assembly and the front assembly from my 69 GTO, I don't recall the actual weights but the GTO was well within 5 pounds and that GTO had hideaways so I'm sure a non hidaway would be bang on.

The reason is the chrome nose has those two very heavy steel supports that weigh more than the bumper itself.

[John Eiseman]

10-4!
I do know all the steel reinforcements in the 68 bumpers do weigh a lot. Never took the time to weigh the two. Thanks for taking the time North!

[north]

68 chrome is probably a pound or two lighter than 69.

[300deluxe]

When it comes to the GTO, 68 and 69 are both so cool, its hard to pick a fav...but on the Lemans, the 68 is my choice by far. I like the tail lights in the bumper, and that front end is SO good looking on the 68's, and the 69's had the massive battering ram snout which I do not like. I really like wing windows also, I just like em. The interior, 68's look more old school, while the 69's had more of a modern look...I like them both. 68 and 69 was a AWESOME year for all Musclecars...cool stuff from every manufacturer. My dad told me when the 1968 Pontiacs came out, there was many people at the dealership checking them out. He said there was people drooling over a Verdoro green GTO, and he thought it was the nicest looking car he had ever seen.

[NYGTO]

Well put, I'm at home with both 68 and 69. It was an interesting turning point design wise. The interior of the 68 still holding on to the earlier cars a bit and 69 having a nod at the new modern style that held on for many years. Hindsight is always 20/20.

[Brewster]

1969 for me due to its the year my wife was born and I love the hood tach, hideaways, duh judge strips

[1969 Ram Air]

The second year of the production cycle typically produces a superior product. This is definitely the case with the 69 GTO.

[GOAT WHORE]

Originally Posted by 1969 Ram Air

The second year of the production cycle typically produces a superior product. This is definitely the case with the 69 GTO.

Ya, what he said!
69 for the lead.

[300deluxe]

This is weird.... the 68 has 68 votes, and the 69 has 69 votes

[andyg]

I think mine has the perfect combination. Its a 69, so it has the nice tail lights, side markers and dash, but I have 68 grills on it up front. And its a drop top.

[Gastiresandoil]

Hardtop or Coupe - 68 - taillights in the bumper and small front turn signals, but most importantly no key in my steering column.

Droptop or Convertible - 69 - Don't like the way the wing windows with the windshield look when the top is down.

[U47]

Originally Posted by Gastiresandoil

Hardtop or Coupe - 68 - taillights in the bumper and small front turn signals, but most importantly no key in my steering column.

Droptop or Convertible - 69 - Don't like the way the wing windows with the windshield look when the top is down.

What winged windows on a 69 ?

[68ragtop]

Originally Posted by U47

What winged windows on a 69 ?

I took it that he does't mind the windows on the 68, but doesn't care for how they look on the 68 ragtops with the top down. prefers the look of the 69's with the top dropped?

[Gastiresandoil]

Originally Posted by U47

What winged windows on a 69 ?

Originally Posted by 68ragtop

I took it that he does't mind the windows on the 68, but doesn't care for how they look on the 68 ragtops with the top down. prefers the look of the 69's with the top dropped?

Yes, I like the 68's, but when the top is down on a convertible, the wing windows with the windshield looks a little funky to me and the 69 convert with the top down is styled better without the wing windows.

[68ragtop]

Interesting perspective on the vent windows. Never thought about that at all with the verts.
I like the vent windows, & I think because they have so much chrome/stainless around the front glass on the convertibles, they do blend in pretty well, but I never thought about it like that.

[U47]

Originally Posted by 68ragtop

Interesting perspective on the vent windows. Never thought about that at all with the verts.
I like the vent windows, & I think because they have so much chrome/stainless around the front glass on the convertibles, they do blend in pretty well, but I never thought about it like that.

When I ordered my 69 H-O LeMans I didn't realize they didn't come with vent wings. At the time( after I realized this) I thought, just like I thought about the 68 vs 69's dash that I was sort of being cheated or de-contented. What I didn't realize was for a time ( early production 69's ) if you wanted, or screamed loud enough etc. you could get vent wings. When I restored my 69 H-O in 91-92 I realized just how easy that would have been to convert back because the 68-69 inner/outer door skins are the same and the holes for mounting the window glass channel and the vent wing assy. hardware all fits.
Funny, I liked the 69 rear bumper better than the 68, but I liked the 68's front bumper with it's smaller center ram or snout than the 69's. The 69's front bumper center snout was so big they had to mount the front bumper license plate on the rt. side of the valance instead of the 68's which is rt. in the middle and symmetrical. Of course GTO's didn't have that problem.