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It's not a great race head, in fact far from it. What's good is it has the ability to produce 3000hp with a standard pushrod location. It also has the capability of producing around 1200 horsepower naturally aspirated.
It's really a decent quality street head that is readily available and can be bought off the shelf from several vendors economically at different stages of porting to support anywhere from 700 plus bracket builds to 1000 hp aftermarket block builds.
I believe it's won more races than any other head produced for a Pontiac. Also it's the only legal NHRA aftermarket Pontiac head.
There is an emissions legal version available for states that require it.
Paul although it has displayed a great deal of accomplishments, that doesn't technically describe why it's a great race head.

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So a lot of people are saying it isn't a great race head. But are we talking about a bracket car or a heads up race car? Because I think it might be a great head for someone bracket racing or running a 10.90 class .

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Paul although it has displayed a great deal of accomplishments, that doesn't technically describe why it's a great race head.

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So a lot of people are saying it isn't a great race head. But are we talking about a bracket car or a heads up race car? Because I think it might be a great head for someone bracket racing or running a 10.90 class .
Pontiac Racers have always been handicapped with poor heads. That's what's cool about an Ehead. You can drag a Brodix headed BBC down the track with a Performer RPM street head.

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It's not a great race head, in fact far from it. What's good is it has the ability to produce 3000hp with a standard pushrod location. It also has the capability of producing around 1200 horsepower naturally aspirated.
It's really a decent quality street head that is readily available and can be bought off the shelf from several vendors economically at different stages of porting to support anywhere from 700 plus bracket builds to 1000 hp aftermarket block builds.
I believe it's won more races than any other head produced for a Pontiac. Also it's the only legal NHRA aftermarket Pontiac head.
There is an emissions legal version available for states that require it.
... very good points, most are true IMO, i'd like to see them on the dyno making 3g's, maybe i'm wrong, but i do know what it takes to make that kinda power, i'd be very impressed to say the least ...

... the other part is to my knowledge there's only one engine that has made or exceeded 1000hp N/A and that's Leech and Co. so i wouldn't look at that as an automatic thing, those guys have done a great job with a big pair of hand cuffs on, but impressive to say the least, at this level one of the key limitation gets in the way, which is CSA, but they've done a great job working around it, but just not the norm for any other EHeaded combo certainly, i'd say for Pontiac engines the list of poeple that have made 1000hp or better is fairly short ...

... what i'd personally like to see is a set ov my CV-370/Raceplate heads on Leech's engine with one of Marcella's bad boy manifolds on top, now that would be very interesting IMO ...

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Pontiac Racers have always been handicapped with poor heads. That's what's cool about an Ehead. You can drag a Brodix headed BBC down the track with a Performer RPM street head.
... there are Brodix headed BBC's out there that make over 1400hp N/A in crate form ...

... but certainly not all ...

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Young Calvin, please read the first line of my post.
Ok, I'll help here.

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... what i'd personally like to see is a set ov my CV-370/Raceplate heads on Leech's engine with one of Marcella's bad boy manifolds on top, now that would be very interesting IMO ...

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I agree that would be interesting. Do you have "off the clock" access to a dyno at Sonny's?

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... the other part is to my knowledge there's only one engine that has made or exceeded 1000hp N/A and that's Leech and Co....
Based on it's performance, a set of eheads ported by Tom Slawko made over 1K hp on a 525 engine. It is currently owned by Karl Owens (KO) on here and is for sale in the parts forum. BTW that engine was built in 2009.

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... there are Brodix headed BBC's out there that make over 1400hp N/A in crate form ...

... but certainly not all ...
Race the one's that don't ...they're usually polished.

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One mite ask what is the definition of a "GREAT RACE HEAD".
Did that not start in late 1954?

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Big Chief just said on FB his new Butler block combo will use his E-heads.

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Big Chief just said on FB his new Butler block combo will use his E-heads.
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The e-head broke open the market for aftermarket Pontiac heads. People were finally able to lust for something other than collectors item RA4's. It's since been eclipsed by newer designs but you can never take away its contribution to the hobby.

Same comments about the Indian Adventures IA-1 blocks.

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Another nice feature is they are available without pushrod holes so you can easily put them where you want.
If you know the right people they can be had without the guides and seats installed.

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Another nice feature is they are available without pushrod holes so you can easily put them where you want.
If you know the right people they can be had without the guides and seats installed.
I agree, the ability to increase CSA by getting the push rod out of the way is a great benefit.

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The e-head broke open the market for aftermarket Pontiac heads. People were finally able to lust for something other than collectors item RA4's. It's since been eclipsed by newer designs but you can never take away its contribution to the hobby.

Same comments about the Indian Adventures IA-1 blocks.

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One mite ask what is the definition of a "GREAT RACE HEAD".
Did that not start in late 1954?
Good question, the Hemi was designed 1951 I think. The 127/980 great heads for racing at the time.

The RAIV and SD heads also great at the time.

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Eheads are easy to make look like a factory head.
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Paul although it has displayed a great deal of accomplishments, that doesn't technically describe why it's a great race head.

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Its NOT ! its a pile of crap. It's just that all the rest are piles of crap too. So the smell doesn't stand out too much . Lol

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