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Old 11-19-2016, 10:19 AM
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My 78 weighs in at 3750 with me and Prostar wheels but to slow it down for the roll bar rule added the spare back in and DOTs on heavier 15x8 snowflakes. Unfortunately none of the tracks have had the scales on since I did that.

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Old 11-19-2016, 10:29 AM
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[QUOTE=Steve C.;5658100]It's to bad they don't have the Pontiac Southern Nationals down here anymore at the Texas Motorplex you would have loved it.

Keep on rocking,

Except the heat, PSN was a blast at a great strip,however having that event in the summer in Texas doesn't make it great time to put down a new best. One year I stayed home after months of getting my car ready. Just didn't feel like putting up with the heat again, and no body wanted to go with me anyway.

Yep those were the days. Been years since I had my car on that track. Usually hit the local 1/8 the mile track.

TAman, great combo you have put together. Thanks for sharing your experiences, really like to see more on shaker set up and cowl air inlet.

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Old 11-19-2016, 01:11 PM
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455Grin..I don't have a shaker hood on this car.I have a fiberglass "twinturbo"style hood.It does give me more clearance.Torquewar(Andy)runs a factory hood and a shaker.He has a thread here,he runs a conical filter,factory shaker and I believe a modified base.He is able to use a spacer under his Holley with his Torker 2..I forget the thickness but I think its 3/4 inch.

On my old car with a factory shaker hood when using a Holley,one inch spacer and a Torker 2 I used a Moroso air pan with a "Dude" Scoop attached to it with a small filter inside for the street at the track I'd remove the filter.
This is the current setup works pretty well especially when its cold out.
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best et 10.679/127.5/1.533 60ft
308 gears best et 10.76/125.64/1.5471
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Old 11-19-2016, 03:45 PM
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Weighed my car the other day came in at 3540lbs plus my 170 so race weight of 3710.My little weight losses have added up plus my old car at 3900lbs still had steel hood,snowflake rims and iron heads at the time.
Thanks for weighing and sharing. Always nice to be able to compare apples to apples.

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Old 11-19-2016, 07:08 PM
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Thanks for weighing and sharing. Always nice to be able to compare apples to apples.
I agree for us tuners it gives us a good baseline with other combos that are similar.Most of us share everything which is good!

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373 gears 3200 Continental Convertor
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308 gears best et 10.76/125.64/1.5471
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Ernie, I'm sure you know there's an aftermarket air cleaner available, originally d signed by a member here, Larry Navarro. Branded WFO air cleaner, similar to stock set, made to be used with an open shaker. I bought one years ago, have not used it yet. I think Butler sells them if Larry doesn't. Larry?

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Old 11-19-2016, 10:31 PM
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Ernie, I'm sure you know there's an aftermarket air cleaner available, originally d signed by a member here, Larry Navarro. Branded WFO air cleaner, similar to stock set, made to be used with an open shaker. I bought one years ago, have not used it yet. I think Butler sells them if Larry doesn't. Larry?
Yes I owned one a few years ago.WFO is a good solution for the street.It helps to solve the magic trick trying to run a stock shaker on a Torker 2 with a one inch spacer. You eventually sacrifice filter size or have the filter top too close to the carb.

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466 Mike Voycey shortblock, 310cfm SD KRE heads, SD "OF 2.0 cam", torker 2,generic one inch open spacer
373 gears 3200 Continental Convertor
best et 10.679/127.5/1.533 60ft
308 gears best et 10.76/125.64/1.5471

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Old 11-20-2016, 03:49 PM
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For you shaker guys. Im still using this setup. Its working ok for me:

http://forums.maxperformanceinc.com/...d.php?t=757533

Ive since convered to a holley and it still works

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Old 12-21-2016, 05:28 PM
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A few changes for next year starting with this.I'm also upgrading the rearend I'm leaning towards 3.42's which will still make the car very highway friendly but I'm not sure yet.
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373 gears 3200 Continental Convertor
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308 gears best et 10.76/125.64/1.5471
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Same cubic inch?

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Old 12-21-2016, 05:41 PM
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Nice....are the o-rings necessary? (Assuming I'm seeing o-rings)

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Same cubic inch?
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373 gears 3200 Continental Convertor
best et 10.679/127.5/1.533 60ft
308 gears best et 10.76/125.64/1.5471
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Nice....are the o-rings necessary? (Assuming I'm seeing o-rings)
No not at all,its the way the block was just a veteran dragracer's bunch of parts that he had.Its overkill for my horsepower level but was offered at a very fair price complete.

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466 Mike Voycey shortblock, 310cfm SD KRE heads, SD "OF 2.0 cam", torker 2,generic one inch open spacer
373 gears 3200 Continental Convertor
best et 10.679/127.5/1.533 60ft
308 gears best et 10.76/125.64/1.5471
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Cool! Good for you!

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Awesome!
3.23 is a real nice gear, still keeps the rev's down on the highway.

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Just can't leave well enough alone? LOL. I went from 3.23(which I consider a great street gear) to 3.50. Revs only changed 100ish rpms at 65 mph with a 275 tire. Hindsight being 20/20 I wish I got 3.70s which would be fine for the few road trips a year I do. So don't be afraid to get a little more gear!

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A few changes for next year starting with this.I'm also upgrading the rearend I'm leaning towards 3.42's which will still make the car very highway friendly but I'm not sure yet.
What camshaft are you using with your new motor?

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Old 12-21-2016, 10:34 PM
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Just can't leave well enough alone? LOL. I went from 3.23(which I consider a great street gear) to 3.50. Revs only changed 100ish rpms at 65 mph with a 275 tire. Hindsight being 20/20 I wish I got 3.70s which would be fine for the few road trips a year I do. So don't be afraid to get a little more gear!
I needed a shortblock upgrade soon!Couldnt pass this up!

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373 gears 3200 Continental Convertor
best et 10.679/127.5/1.533 60ft
308 gears best et 10.76/125.64/1.5471
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What camshaft are you using with your new motor?
Most likely sticking with the current cam.We will see what happens or what dumb idea I might have.Things have a tendency to snowball.

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373 gears 3200 Continental Convertor
best et 10.679/127.5/1.533 60ft
308 gears best et 10.76/125.64/1.5471
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Do you currently have rpm left in the powerband? If you aren't crossing the finish line at 400 or more RPM lower than your shiftpoint, I'd keep the 3.08's. Traction might become more of an issue as well.

You are already changing the shortblock, change too many variables and you might waste a lot of time chasing your tail in circles, dialing it back in.


BTW, your current combo is HEAVILY influencing what I'm planning on doing with my '73 ;-)

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