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Old 03-18-2017, 06:34 PM
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was with e-heads boosted

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Old 03-18-2017, 08:05 PM
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I went to Norwalk last year for two reasons: (First time in 5 years).
To pick up a IA-2 aluminum block David Butler had for me and to talk to Jim Robertson in person, and the Old Super Stock Guys Joe Z and Larry K..
I sat in the stand with the other 10 people and watched the cars make their passes.

I did get a chance to spend some time talking to Mike Leech at the staging lane.
Very glad I was able to do that since his untimely passing later on.

Drag Race with George. I would not spend a dime of my money on that deal.
Why spend money on a something you could give squat about. Tried to help George over the years, like Marty, Charlie, and others.
Wasted effort so why would I waste a second of my time on him preparing a drag car. Leech already proved that his NA car was faster than George's Supercharged roller skate.

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Very True, Jim, Just Curt had a little extra cushion in his post on the ET. (;>)

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Tom, you forgot "Pro Mod" with "steamrollers".
I got a kick out of whoever Mike was ripping on at any given time. Vast majority of the time he was right. Made me laugh.
I seen a guy with a BBF, door car go .6.88 @212 with a 8-71.


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Old 03-18-2017, 09:25 PM
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Hey Dragncar, everyone was complaining that the Race Section was too boring.

Just trying to keep everyone from going to sleep and give "The Idiot" as Mike would say a few shots to make everyone happy.

That being said, IF George can sell his 8-71 on the board and step up (like other belt guys have done), George WILL be in the 7s for sure at some point.
I believe that if Jim were closer to George, George would already be there.

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My 8-71 is what it is ........a nice blower if you want only 9-12 on a 500+ cubed engine, it'll make a GREAT street blower! I want a little more, a newer more efficient blower would do it. My engine again is a mild Bracket engine built by KRE to go rounds be consistent and not break (to often). I'll match my car and engine next to any car weighing in at 3,200 lb and running 9-11 lbs of boost with a same 8-71 roots blower........apples to apples! Just saying!! FYI I've seen 500 cubed NA cars run 6.70's.......hell 6.50's in 80 degree weather!


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Old 03-19-2017, 12:39 AM
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wreckmastr- thanks for the list. And thanks to everyone for noting other seven-second door cars... and, of course, Curt's six-second ride.
Was Maurice's car a door-slammer?

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My 8-71 is what it is ........a nice blower if you want only 9-12 on a 500+ cubed engine, it'll make a GREAT street blower! I want a little more, a newer more efficient blower would do it. My engine again is a mild Bracket engine built by KRE to go rounds be consistent and not break (to often). I'll match my car and engine next to any car weighing in at 3,200 lb and running 9-11 lbs of boost with a same 8-71 roots blower........apples to apples! Just saying!! FYI I've seen 500 cubed NA cars run 6.70's.......hell 6.50's in 80 degree weather!

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You do have a nice 8-71 blower set-up. Looked at your deal several times.
You always spent the money with BDS on good parts. You just need a bit more Mass Flow and you are there. Someone would be getting some good parts if they decide to step and buy your deal.

Hope you sell your supercharger stuff and can get the larger Supercharger and maybe the RA-V stuff from Don that you like.

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You do have a nice 8-71 blower set-up. Looked at your deal several times.
You always spent the money with BDS on good parts. You just need a bit more Mass Flow and you are there. Someone would be getting some good parts if they decide to step and buy your deal.

Hope you sell your supercharger stuff and can get the larger Supercharger and maybe the RA-V stuff from Don that you like.

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You haven't a clue, I'm already there, its not the quickest that wins the race it's the best!


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Old 03-19-2017, 04:51 PM
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You haven't a clue, I'm already there, its not the quickest that wins the race it's the best!


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Not if your grudge racing!!

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Old 03-19-2017, 03:19 AM
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Maurice's car was killer cool! What did it go?

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Curious how many Pontiac-powered door cars have made 7 second quarter-mile passes?

Interested also if if was accomplished N/A or power adder.

And if we want to get feisty, what heads.

Since Marty went in the 6's 20 yrs ago with a D port that flowed 280cfm, 7's now days shouldn't be much other then a great combo and a fair amount of money.
If its lite it will be even easier.

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Old 03-19-2017, 05:37 PM
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Since Marty went in the 6's 20 yrs ago with a D port that flowed 280cfm, 7's now days shouldn't be much other then a great combo and a fair amount of money.
If its lite it will be even easier.
With enough money, nearly anything is possible.

On this "list" of 7 second (and faster) door cars, I'm only aware of 1 that is not boosted/sprayed...

How many/who achieved it WITHOUT a power adder?

1. Mike Leech

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With enough money, nearly anything is possible.

On this "list" of 7 second (and faster) door cars, I'm only aware of 1 that is not boosted/sprayed...

How many/who achieved it WITHOUT a power adder?

1. Mike Leech
Mark Kauffman plus 7 or 8 others, they did it at Norwalk in the summer.


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Mark Kauffman plus 7 or 8 others, they did it at Norwalk in the summer.


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Difference is Mikes car was not a aerodynamic roller skate.

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Difference is Mikes car was not a aerodynamic roller skate.
A roller skate is a Dragster...... no Dragsters on that list only Door Cars! I'm pretty sure non of those cars ran in 40-50 degree temps to run a seven. I'm more of a same day, same track kind of guy. Some racers run fast elsewhere bring them to the same track,same day and they can't produce.




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With enough money, nearly anything is possible.

On this "list" of 7 second (and faster) door cars, I'm only aware of 1 that is not boosted/sprayed...

How many/who achieved it WITHOUT a power adder?

1. Mike Leech
Here is a car I like to watch.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5go5Qf3ZUFQ

With your present build aren't you thinking 7's?

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Old 03-20-2017, 12:03 AM
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Here is a car I like to watch.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5go5Qf3ZUFQ

With your present build aren't you thinking 7's?
Agreed, Snyder's car is baddd.

My build is not going to be a 7 second ride anytime soon, just shooting for 9's. Never been faster than 12.5x, need to get some experience before going for broke. Honestly don't know what this car is going to weigh, expect somewhere around 2800-3000? Iron 535 with standard pushrod location Eheads. Once I get a feel for the car and some speed, start turning up the wick - maybe spray, maybe boost, maybe step up to big boy heads.

I'll say this, it's encouraging to hear that going 7's isn't all that difficult! Not a big deal apparently, shows I got a lot to learn yet.

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Agreed, Snyder's car is baddd.

My build is not going to be a 7 second ride anytime soon, just shooting for 9's. Never been faster than 12.5x, need to get some experience before going for broke. Honestly don't know what this car is going to weigh, expect somewhere around 2800-3000? Iron 535 with standard pushrod location Eheads. Once I get a feel for the car and some speed, start turning up the wick - maybe spray, maybe boost, maybe step up to big boy heads.

I'll say this, it's encouraging to hear that going 7's isn't all that difficult! Not a big deal apparently, shows I got a lot to learn yet.

Going 7's is a big deal to me, but with a good plan it can be done. I have been asking a lot of questions, for a lot of years and there is a lot to learn or things will be way more expensive.

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I'll say this, it's encouraging to hear that going 7's isn't all that difficult! Not a big deal apparently, shows I got a lot to learn yet.
The tech is there to run a seven several different ways: NA, NO2, turbo, supercharged, but I haven't heard anyone who's actually done it say "it isn't all that difficult". It takes money and hard work using available technology. I just followed a formula to do it, but it was never easy: big learning curve and lots of surprises along the way.

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