[PAUL K]

Originally Posted by grandville455

My Little 468 KRE 325 D port HEADED PUMP GAS STREET CAR
Now back to arguing lol

Good job Darby! You are the King of D'Port pump gas cars!

[slowbird]

Originally Posted by PAUL K

go Lion's!

We all know you don't mean that

[PAUL K]

Originally Posted by slowbird

We all know you don't mean that

Lol!

[grandville455]

Originally Posted by PAUL K

Good job Darby! You are the King of D'Port pump gas cars!

Paul, I dunno about King, lol...I'm just a stubborn tuner, and never give up!!

[PAUL K]

Originally Posted by grandville455

Paul, I dunno about King, lol...I'm just a stubborn tuner, and never give up!!

Let's go with King until proven otherwise.

[slowbird]

Walter Lansing ran 9.8-9.7 with kre d-ports on pg

[grandville455]

Originally Posted by slowbird

Walter Lansing ran 9.8-9.7 with kre d-ports on pg

What was the total combo Brian? Weight etc

[slowbird]

It was years ago but i think he weighed 3700-3800. Dan did heads/intake.

[PAUL K]

Originally Posted by slowbird

Walter Lansing ran 9.8-9.7 with kre d-ports on pg

You are such a party pooper!

[PAUL K]

Originally Posted by grandville455

What was the total combo Brian? Weight etc

Ignore Slowbird... you completed Drag-week!

[grandville455]

Originally Posted by slowbird

It was years ago but i think he weighed 3700-3800. Dan did heads/intake.

I did a quick search, Way more head cfm 370 INT, engine and cam then me!! IA2 525 and only a 100 lbs heavier CAR 3670, i was prob 3580 yesterday and his dyno showed 780 hp, 693 torque, that's 130 more hp and almost 100 lbs MORE of torque, and he ran 9.73@136... Titanium valves , shaft rockers etc. I would say I'm doing just fine with mine . I haven't even found the limit yet, there's still more left.

[PAUL K]

Originally Posted by grandville455

I did a quick search, Way more head cfm 370 INT, engine and cam then me!! IA2 525 and only a 100 lbs heavier CAR 3670, i was prob 3580 yesterday and his dyno showed 780 hp, 693 torque, that's 130 more hp and almost 100 lbs MORE of torque, and he ran 9.73@136... Titanium valves , shaft rockers etc. I would say I'm doing just fine with mine . I haven't even found the limit yet, there's still more left.

See I told you you're the King!

[slowbird]

Originally Posted by grandville455

I did a quick search, Way more head cfm 370 INT, engine and cam then me!! IA2 525 and only a 100 lbs heavier CAR 3670, i was prob 3580 yesterday and his dyno showed 780 hp, 693 torque, that's 130 more hp and almost 100 lbs MORE of torque, and he ran 9.73@136... Titanium valves , shaft rockers etc. I would say I'm doing just fine with mine . I haven't even found the limit yet, there's still more left.

Lol i said it was years ago.

[7T2]

Originally Posted by PAUL K

Good job Darby! You are the King of D'Port pump gas cars!

certainly of that 5% of hobbyists-
vast majority are like i was with my '72 formula- cruise, show, few track events

[grandville455]

Originally Posted by slowbird

Lol i said it was years ago.

Yes, lol!! I started a new thread to get this one back on topic to arguing and bitching lol

[Dragncar]

Originally Posted by Elarson

Sounds like you're lining up a lot of good parts. But getting a combo to work to it's full potential can be a time-consuming and humbling experience. It will be a good project.

Eric

Thanks, its going to be fun. But until I get another car I will run it with the converters I have and whatever carb I need to go 10 flat.
I can buy another 9" 3rd member with the right gears and converter for a different car.
The new issues with traction will be interesting. Car just grabs and goes right now. Bet that changes. We do have a top notch chassie/traction guy at out track. Steve Qkiss.
Thing is, in bracket racing tuning the car to full potential does not help me much. I used to play with this and that on my first 3 time runs and just concentrate on the launch on my 4 and final run. I started taking home the trophys when I stopped playing with the car so much and just driving it.

[Dragncar]

Originally Posted by GTOGEORGE

I DID NOT LIE about the weight of DF car, I talked to him "face to face" at Norwalk in the staging lanes about the weight of his car when he was running those 7.7's with his e-heads! You need to stop listening to that FAKE NEWS on the other Pontiac web site.


GTO George

DF cars weight of 3020lbs race weight came in a PM on "this site", from Mr. Fulton in 2011. What about that is fake news ? The whole thing about his car, times, combos ect is all fishy. Did he run drag radials for the 7.65 run. Tire change alone gets you something. Only had to be .06.
What about all the U tube videos of him running 7.70s and 7.80s with CVs.
Still, never has answered my question of his best CV time. Was it 7.65 ? Were drag radials on the car ?
I wonder what he paid out of his pocket for the CV top end ? Was it a big freebee ?
Did the new 410cfm E heads ever get a proper chance. Did he dyno it with the same cam as the 370 E heads ? We all know 40cfm means you put in a bigger cam and probably new converter. Was he not happy with the 2x4 intake for the E heads.
It just seems to me, if you run 7.71 with 370 E heads and get a 410cfm set with proper intake, cam, converter and gears you would AT LEAST see a tenth difference. Should be even more if done right.
Was it done right ? Or did he dyno it with the same cam the 370 engine had, had a "lazy air" thing going on because he was to cheap to buy a new cam, got upset and then have some guy tell them we will give you a new wiz bang CV top end. Then put it all together with a ci/crank change and the thing only goes from a 7.71 to a 7.65.
What was his ci with the 370 E heads ?
And what a gorgeous car.

[Tiger Paw]

I know Qkiss from metalshaping. He does some fabricating!

[Dragncar]

Originally Posted by GTOGEORGE

Me Sucking up........not likely, just telling it like I see it!
RA5 expensive ............"I don't think so Tim" ........anyone (that is stepping up) and buying a set of 370cfm of larger heads will need to buy another set of large tube headers (no one starts off with 2 1/4" primarys), a larger camshaft (to take advantage of the better flowing heads) and a better intake (P4B just aint going to work)! LOL DCI RA5 heads as cast start off at 380 CFM with standard rockers (no rocker shaft needed) can't do that with e-heads! So all that BS you and your TWIN over on the PZ web site is just smoke & mirrors, all those items will have to be bought no matter what performance heads a racer steps up to!
NOW as for those H & M heads (that no one has) who wants to mortgage their house when there are other performance heads that will go 500+cfm (Warp, DCI RA5, etc.) that are FAR more affordable........just saying!

GTO George

Oh dum de de dum de de dumb, making sense to you seems like work.
The point is, while cool the heads do cost 5K. Then the special one off intake, special cam and headers are expensive.
You can buy a set of std pushrod E heads from Wilcox for 3300$ that go 374cfm ! A lot of Pontiac performance guys have 2" round port headers and Victors in their garage. Used std Pontiac rollers are not hard to find. You can make real power with the above stuff for not a whole lot of dollars. That is a real option for some, its a smart move.
They(RAVs) have to beat the pants off it to make it worth the extra dollars. Not saying they cant beat the pants off them.
Now the H&M RAVs not cheap, but the real deal is often not cheap. What are you going to say when a Pontiac NA door car goes 6s. Or the new billet block one sets the all time Pontiac record.
Warps, whatever. They are far from cheap. Have their own issues, canted valves on a Pontiac blocks is not easy. Still a BBC head on a Pontiac, whats cool about that.

[Dragncar]

Originally Posted by Tiger Paw

I know Qkiss from metalshaping. He does some fabricating!

So, you know Steve Qkiss AND Mike Lewis. Between Marcella, Scott Brown, Steve, and Mike I should be alright.