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#1
10-24-2017, 07:33 PM
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Value of metal tail panel?
Hello all, now that my car is painted, I'm going to start clearing out the parts I don't need. One part I have is a tail panel that goes between the taillights. These parts are generally fiberglass. I know some early '70 cars came with these. Are these more valuable/desireable than the fiberglass panels? What's a fair price for one of these? Ive seen a few old posts of some members here saying what they paid for theirs, (around $700 if my memory serves me correctly) but I'm trying to get a ballpark I guess. Thanks!
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#2
10-26-2017, 06:30 AM
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Early 70 only and not sure if it was Van Nuys only or Norwalk as well.
I think mine sold for around $600 or so. One of those things that is so uncommon that if you don't have it on your car it wouldn't necessarily make it wrong - but if you have an early car it would separate it from the pack.
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#3
10-26-2017, 06:49 AM
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My Formula is a very early car and had the fiberglass panel, Norwood car.
(ship date of 2/24/70) 
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10-26-2017, 07:52 AM
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John that is early......I have never seen a metal panel that I know of. When installed can you tell that it is a metal one?
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10-26-2017, 08:43 AM
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10-26-2017, 09:02 AM
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What is the ship date on the PHS?
I'm not near my car, can't remember the cowl tag date. 
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#7
10-27-2017, 07:01 AM
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My Van Nuys early build Formula had one - is the part number the same or different?
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#8
10-27-2017, 03:16 PM
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I remember finding one of those in a junkyard in San Jose about 20 years ago. Never had seen a metal one before. I bought it and still have it for that reason. Sadly it was damaged; the junkyard punks pounded the lock out to see if anything of value was in the trunk, I distinctly recall the car was catilllion bronze, a base model and serial number was 100007. I would surmise it was a Van Nuys install only as I have never seen one on a Norwood car.
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#9
10-27-2017, 03:43 PM
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These tail panels seem to have a casting number on them and a separate part number that is different. From what I can tell...
The early 1970 only pot metal piece has a casting number that is hard to make out two of the digits. Something like 9813148.  But, I believe the part number was 9826896 12.966 23...................... PANEL 1 1970 1970 12-1 The later 1970 through 1973 fiberglass panels have a casting number of 8789638  but the part number was 9851259 12.966 All F PANEL ASM. (rear end finish)-fiberglass 1 1970 1973 12-1  Chad .
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#10
11-03-2017, 08:08 AM
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I have a 70 Firebird, Norwood build date 12C / 223870N100099 It has the pot metal panel. That blows the Van Nuys only theory.
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#11
11-03-2017, 10:54 AM
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Wow, a 12C car huh? Have never a cowl tag date that early.
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11-03-2017, 12:15 PM
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Me either.
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#13
11-03-2017, 05:25 PM
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I have one that I think came off a Van Nuys car. The owner was in the military, and brought it to NC when he was re-assigned.
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#14
11-03-2017, 08:18 PM
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And PHS if you have it?
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#15
11-04-2017, 07:21 AM
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I never bothered with PHS as I bought it for the standard interior parts for my Formula. The drivers door, trunk lid and trunk wiring harness were used also.
There is a freshly rebuilt 71 big car 455 still sitting in it. |
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11-04-2017, 08:07 AM
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Thanks for the tag.
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#17
11-04-2017, 08:09 AM
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johnta1, Are you collecting cowl tags in general or that specific one? I have photos of my late Norwood built 70 Formula, with PHS.
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#18
11-04-2017, 08:38 AM
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Does anyone ever answer the original posters question? These threads go sideways so fast...
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#19
11-04-2017, 08:56 AM
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Basically the second post?
These are so rare probably can't get an ideal price? We're just trying to determine a timeline for them, now. 
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John Wallace - johnta1 Pontiac Power RULES !!! www.wallaceracing.com Winner of Top Class at Pontiac Nationals, 2004 Cordova Winner of Quick 16 At Ames 2004 Pontiac Tripower Nats KRE's MR-1 - 1st 5 second Pontiac block ever! "Every man has a right to his own opinion, but no man has a right to be wrong in his facts." "People demand freedom of speech to make up for the freedom of thought which they avoid." – Socrates |
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#20
11-04-2017, 09:00 AM
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I'd be interested. If not wanting to clutter this thread, you could email them to me: johnta1@wallaceracing.com
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