[NeighborsComplaint]

Yup. Applied to a clean surface, JB weld is tough stuff.

I would have given it a try if making to that car show was a priority. Shanme to have to wait another year but it sounds like there were plenty of loose ends to wrap up ad not enough time.

I've missed the Indian Uprising show here 3 years in a row with my car getting "tweaked" at body shops and never getting done.

[Scarebird]

Originally Posted by 64speed

The filter adapter got dropped in the install and now its cracked. I am gonna have to get another so I am not gonna make the car show

Is this car show worth having the adapter fail and spraying your engine and all points in sight with oil?

I would fix it properly.

[ZeGermanHam]

Nice, congrats!

[64speed]

It’s already sprayed everywhere. Nothing mean green can’t take care of. Not a show car, I drive it.

[Gach]

Did you find another one ?

[64speed]

Back in business. Now all I gotta do is clean the oil spray

[64speed]

So I got the filter adapter on and it worked beautifully for about 15 minutes then it started to leak water. After thorough inspection I found that my brackets all mount to head bolts and when I loosened them they lost seal and are leaking ito the pan. My friendi gonna fix it Monday. I got all the gasket he will need and after than I am just gonna do easy stuff like cleaning up the wiring

[78w72]

Originally Posted by 64speed

So I got the filter adapter on and it worked beautifully for about 15 minutes then it started to leak water. After thorough inspection I found that my brackets all mount to head bolts and when I loosened them they lost seal and are leaking ito the pan. My friendi gonna fix it Monday. I got all the gasket he will need and after than I am just gonna do easy stuff like cleaning up the wiring

sorry if im misunderstanding this... but how does an oil filter adapter leak water?

[64speed]

Originally Posted by 78w72

sorry if im misunderstanding this... but how does an oil filter adapter leak water?

Not the filter adapter. Timing chain cover lost seal from removing bolts to install the brackets

[78w72]

Originally Posted by 64speed

Not the filter adapter. Timing chain cover lost seal from removing bolts to install the brackets

ok. the 1st sentence says the oil filter worked for about 15 minutes then leaked water. then the 2nd sentence says when you loosened "brackets" they lost seal & are leaking into the pan. no mention of the timing cover. grammar is important.

what bracket bolts caused the timing cover to loosen enough to leak water? if the gaskets were installed dry you should be able to just re tighten the bolts, no need to remove it & install new gaskets on a minor leak from loosened bolts if the gaskets are still in good shape. also, that is a case where a good gasket sealer/dressing may have prevented a leak from a few loose bolts.

[grivera]

Dave - can you elaborate? Are you talking about bolts that hold the head to the block or accessory brackets into the front of the head? If so, no water being sealed there. If the timing cover, the two large long bolts go into the block but the others are only water-pump to the cover and they are subject to leak but I’ve never experienced that when pulling a single bolt.

[64speed]

Ok here is the skinny. The builder did not have the brackets to install at his shop so he just put temp bolts in to run it in. When I got home I took those bolts out to install the brackets and everything I took out leaked. I put thread sealant on them and put them back and saw no external leaks. Afte I inspected the front of the engine I noticed some bubbles coming out around the gasket at the block but I put it on the to fix list and moved on. The oil filter adapter sprayed oil everywhere on started so I got the replacement and it stopped that leak. I then noticed a water leak and started searching and couldn’t find it. I drained the oil and it was milk. Now at this point the engine other than on the engine stand it had not been run. After a walk around to check things I noticed water. Figured one of the hoses was leaking so I shut it off and checked everything again. I didn’t see anymore leaks so I fired it up and instantly milk. I called my machinist and I called Butler and they both said if the housing lost seal it would pour in the oil pan. I took it to my local Pontiac guru and he confirmed my suspicions. All is well and I get it back in the morning

[grivera]

Do you have an 11 or 8 bolt timing cover? Which bolts did you loosen? Any pics?

[64speed]

Well it gets worse, after being “fixed” it filled the crank case with oil again in just a few minutes. I have no idea how a crack either in the heads happened between the run stand or the car but it did. I’m done. I don’t have to feed it so it can just sit in the garage

[grivera]

Originally Posted by 64speed

Well it gets worse, after being “fixed” it filled the crank case with oil again in just a few minutes. I have no idea how a crack either in the heads happened between the run stand or the car but it did. I’m done. I don’t have to feed it so it can just sit in the garage

Sorry to hear about your issues. I assume a typo- did you mean the crankcase filled with coolant?

Was there an external sign of coolant leaking out?

What led you to check the oil level?

[NeighborsComplaint]

Was the car running when this occurred? If an intake or head gasket is the problem, the car would smoke like a crop duster and the exhaust would have an antifreeze/insecticide smell to it. Even with the slightest leak, the smell is unmistakable even when it just looks like light condensation coming out the exhaust after startup.

With no visible leak and no odor when running, the leak is water pump to timing cover to block related. Did your builder reuse a rusted separator plate between the pump and timing cover? It only takes a few pinholes to let coolant into the oil pan.

An intake gasket leak will usually show itself with antifreeze in the valley pan. Head gaskets can leak internally into the bores. Between 4/6 and 3/5 are most susceptible spots for the head gaskets to fail.

I would pick up a cheap borescope from Harbor and check the cylinder bores for antifreeze before yanking the heads.

[JSchmitz]

Sorry to hear about your bad luck. This hobby can be tough at times.

[400 Lemans]

Doesn't Edelbrock say to retorque head bolts after initial run ,when it cools down? Dont give up on it.

[misterp266]

Been following this and I feel for you. I would take your own advice and step away for a while, spend some time doing something else for a while and come back to it fresh again. Frustration can lead you to making bad decisions. Let it sit, like you said, you don’t need to feed it.
But, never give up!

[P@blo]

Originally Posted by misterp266

Been following this and I feel for you. I would take your own advice and step away for a while, spend some time doing something else for a while and come back to it fresh again. Frustration can lead you to making bad decisions. Let it sit, like you said, you don’t need to feed it.
But, never give up!

Best advice on this thread so far. Other hobbies might be an option too as far as enjoyment-to-cost ratio.

Cars are accessories to life and should never be the other way around.