[billkinney]

Originally Posted by Tom Vaught

In 50+ years of playing with Pontiac Engines, I personally have seen only one case of a valve head coming off of a valve stem.

This was on Jim Brady's 64 GTO drag car many years ago at a race in Wisconsin.

Stock 2 Piece Pontiac Intake Valve.
Did a burnout in the water box, can out idled towards the starting line, engine locks up.
Turned out the valve head came off, flipped over and just shut the engine off. No major damage to the head or engine. new valve and maybe a Piston, but that was a long time ago.

Were these stock sealed power type valves? Some of these places might have had parts on the shelf for 25 years.

Tom V.

It was advertised as : hardened exhaust seats and screw in rocker studs and guide plates, 1.92 ss intake and 1.640 ss exhaust valves. comp cam retainers, screw in studs, guide plates and retainers. #51-223-4 cam with matching springs and 10.7 to 1 comp ratio, an easy 380 hp"

[Mike Davis]

If they are SS valves and one broke there is a serious issue. That is a pretty maintenance free engine. I ran that cam on pump gas in a 400 with no issues.
Find a new builder.
There are a lot of good shops in Fla.

[Scarebird]

How did you pay for this?

[track73]

Originally Posted by Navy Horn 16

How much does a full page article in the local newspaper cost? There is more than one way to split this atom. Let him choose between making it right and you ruining his business.

The builder will also entail the cost of defending himself . That could be a negotiating point. Have your lawyer send him letter saying that your are suing him.

[n2ogpsj462]

Originally Posted by billkinney

Talked to a lawyer today.. Damnit! 1 expert witness and a lawyer eat up the cost of a n ew motor on day 1. Needs an ass whoopin

Yea I was going to say if you dont know a lawyer to draft the paper as a favor (considering it might only be a threat) no lawyer will do it for any less than a 2500$ retainer.

[billkinney]

Originally Posted by Scarebird

How did you pay for this?

VISA

[track73]

See if your credit card can help you out. Give them a call.

[Scarebird]

They will if you have another neutral machine shop examine the damage and ascertain that the first shop caused the issue.

[Bobalong]

Speaking earlier about AV gs. Do you guys just drive to your municipal airport
and pull up to the pump ?

I'm just asking, I thought it required some secret password, or ID to get on to the flight area.

Maybe call first see what local requirement is ?

Is AV gas ugly expensive ? Marine gas is usually a $1.00 a gallon more at marina's than it is
at the local C store. About 89 octane, no ethanol.

[billkinney]

Originally Posted by Bobalong

Speaking earlier about AV gs. Do you guys just drive to your municipal airport
and pull up to the pump ?

I'm just asking, I thought it required some secret password, or ID to get on to the flight area.

Maybe call first see what local requirement is ?

Is AV gas ugly expensive ? Marine gas is usually a $1.00 a gallon more at marina's than it is
at the local C store. About 89 octane, no ethanol.

We have so many airboats that it sells at the gas stations for $4.45 a gallon.

[Navy Horn 16]

Originally Posted by Bobalong

Speaking earlier about AV gs. Do you guys just drive to your municipal airport
and pull up to the pump ?

I'm just asking, I thought it required some secret password, or ID to get on to the flight area.

Maybe call first see what local requirement is ?

Is AV gas ugly expensive ? Marine gas is usually a $1.00 a gallon more at marina's than it is
at the local C store. About 89 octane, no ethanol.

It depends on the airport. Some have a gate code, others don't. Don't put it directly into your car unless you are cool with the airport manager and nobody is around. It isn't taxed for road use, and you and the manager can get in trouble. There isn't anything illegal about filling up gas cans though, and they are in the business of selling gas.

The industry standard pump lets you dispense a dollar amount or total gallons. It will stop the pump when the pre-set limit has been reached. It's about $4 per gallon now in central Texas. More than premium, but way less than race gas.

[Mike Davis]

Originally Posted by Navy Horn 16

It depends on the airport. Some have a gate code, others don't. Don't put it directly into your car unless you are cool with the airport manager and nobody is around. It isn't taxed for road use, and you and the manager can get in trouble. There isn't anything illegal about filling up gas cans though, and they are in the business of selling gas.

The industry standard pump lets you dispense a dollar amount or total gallons. It will stop the pump when the pre-set limit has been reached. It's about $4 per gallon now in central Texas. More than premium, but way less than race gas.

About the same price here. I use it when I street drive my car as well as driving to the tech line and loading and unloading in the trailer as C12 runs around $15 a gallon., also use it in my Dad's 67. I add 2 Ounces of MMT to it to raise the octane a slight amount.