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Old 03-22-2018, 06:38 PM
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As much as I would love to have a max effort n/a Pontiac motor the cost isn't worth it to me.

Turbos aren't going to cost anywhere near that dollar per HP ! Fabbing the piping can get pricey if you have to send it out . More so if you want beautiful to go with it. Can be done affordably though and function over pretty can work as well.

The best part IMO is ability to have more power than you could ever get N/A and still be docile enough to drive anywhere!

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Old 03-22-2018, 06:40 PM
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It cost just as much to run 6’s in a roots blower car as it does in a pro charger type car! FACT!


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It wasn't the roots blowers fault..
TRUTH! ^^^^^^^^^



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Old 03-22-2018, 06:55 PM
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Wasn't this post about Chiefs top end? Let's get back to that... I'm sure Bill and Jim will deliver a top notch product that will preform better than his current e head combo. Not to take anything away from what he is running but I think he will do very well when all is said and done.
I'm sure there will be growing pains as there is with any new combo but I would be willing to lay down money that he will be faster and have less trouble when all is said and done. Jmo

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Old 03-22-2018, 07:11 PM
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Old 03-22-2018, 07:16 PM
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at up to $4.50!a gal.
$4.50 LOL I would be happy to pay even $14.50 a gallon!
Q-16 $17.60 a gallon.

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Old 03-22-2018, 07:18 PM
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$4.50 LOL I would be happy to pay even $14.50 a gallon!
Q-16 $17.60 a gallon.
Yes but I go through 4 gal a pass.



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Old 03-22-2018, 07:22 PM
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Your pal Brian ? Or does Barton get the honor again ?
That's up to Brian to give you that information. We're a pretty tight lipped shop. We show some of our projects on FB but that's always with the customers okay.

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Old 03-22-2018, 07:26 PM
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$4.50 LOL I would be happy to pay even $14.50 a gallon!
Q-16 $17.60 a gallon.
$17.60 is worth it for Q16, it has such a pleasant smell, who wouldn't pay to smell it!

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Old 03-22-2018, 07:30 PM
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$17.60 is worth it for Q16, it has such a pleasant smell, who wouldn't pay to smell it!
I pay less for methanol, then add cinnamon flavor. Now that's a good smell!

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Yes but I go through 4 gal a pass.



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1.8 gallons here so .......

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$17.60 is worth it for Q16, it has such a pleasant smell, who wouldn't pay to smell it!
I hate it

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Old 03-22-2018, 07:32 PM
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1.8 gallons here so .......
Ok........you win!




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Old 03-22-2018, 08:49 PM
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I hate it
You can always tell who is pouring Q16 into their tank based on if they are holding their breath and turning their heads away. Lol.
We left the gas cap off the fuel cell for one pass on accident, about half track the fumes got so bad i couldnt breath, let out and rolled down the window which made it WAY worse. It sloshed about .5-1gal out of cell and took about 2hrs to air out before i could sit in the car again. But the stuff makes good power, lol

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Old 03-22-2018, 09:50 PM
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Old 03-22-2018, 10:39 PM
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Don’t forget he was 100 lbs heavier with the cv heads.....that’s pretty darn good with a head change. Eheads are a good starter head but KRE HP is a better bang for your buck!
Blower cheaper, HAH........build one first then see how cheap it is! It don’t cost much to run 20’s.....seriously, go make some HP!

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You were violated by a set of E heads in the past weren’t you?
You are so FUNNY!



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Old 03-22-2018, 11:23 PM
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I honestly can't see where a man that has a 10.00 car should have anything negative to say about another man's program that far exceeds his own. I know and have talked to all these people. Really? Who really cares? Nobody. You don't want to cut up your gto? Smartest thing you ever posted! Other than that a bunch of b.s. Get real man. I'm a small fish in this pond and you will NEVER outrun me. Unless we race keyboards

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Old 03-23-2018, 02:51 AM
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cheifbob, since waited all that time to come and post that bit of your country wisdom it seems you have taken a real liking to me. You went through all that trouble and thought I would only think it to be fair if I offered you my sincere help. What I need is to know where to send a full size poster of myself to you, help you out and all since you are so concerned.
That way you can staple it to the ceiling right over your bed, so we can be close since I am on your mind so much. It will have a side benefit, if the person laying next to you ever gets tired of your smiling face all they have to do is open their eyes them BAM, my smiling face will be right there to comfort the both of you.
You can pick the pose. I can stand straight and tall with hands on hips, I call that one "The Superman". Or, one elbow on my knee with hand on my chin, I call that one "The Thinker". Best one for last. I can grow my mustache real thick and bushy, I call that one The Harry Reems" . That's for the little lady.
I just want to help a fellow PYer out, since you seem to want to help me with your thoughts.
Maybe we can do the poster as a gif, you pick the phrase. I like "Bite Me".
Or, maybe you can make me into a "fat head" and rent me out for things like birthday parties. You will be the coolest guy on the block.
Since I am renting out space in your head we need to do all we can to make sure I am close by.

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Old 03-23-2018, 05:56 AM
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No mention of any engine buidlers or machine shops. Very impressive. Deliver your photo in person. That would be sweet

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Old 03-23-2018, 06:09 AM
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Bob, you dont like me and I am cool with that. Everyone does not have to like me. You seem to think Brian can not take care of himself, he does just fine.
See, him and I have been going back and fourth for years and that is OK. I still respect him, Bruce, George and Stan who exchange our thoughts from time to time, disagreeing some. But you seem to feel the need to call me out, call me names(shows your true intellect, you are a phony) Because I do not have a 8sec car I can not speak to that level of racing. You are free to your opinion ,I am fine with it. Dont need your approval.
You think I put a rear end in my car that can handle 1600+HP to run 10s? I stared a build back in 2004, you know when the fast guys now were running 10s,9s. But Leukemia in the family changes things. Then mill closures over the next 10 years and my builder died.
Kept my car and my stuff. You think if I have acquired most of the stuff to build a 900HP engine I am going to just look at it ? Dont be so sure of yourself. Have inside track on a real deal 2300lb Pro Stock bird. Better car than 98% here.
You want a piece of me, you got it. You just very well might be smarter than me, but statistically speaking, not very likely.
You know how many guys have fast cars but dont know jack ? Lots. Tracks are full of them. Sure hope you are not one of those guys who writes checks and just gets behind the wheel.
You can act all humble and say you will never know half as much as those that came before you and all. But if that was they way it worked we would be going backwards.
Why don't you try a novel approach, mind your own business.
Sleep tight, now close your eyes and imagine what my poster would look like over your bed.

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