[KGTO]

Tom... I'm guessing the 2300 but I'll need to revisit that I also saw Edelbrock is now selling a supercharger too. Other than my buddy being a Magnusson dealer I like the smaller size and sound/power these are able to produce. I was thinking it would be a unique way to make some fun power on the street with a wicked sound. The other option would of course be a centrifugal/blow through and I could probably get the whole thing under the hood. I just like the thought of doing something different with a manifold blower.

George...thanks for the input, not the way I'm looking to go on this project.

[GTOGEORGE]

Originally Posted by KGTO

The other option would of course be a centrifugal/blow through and I could probably get the whole thing under the hood. I just like the thought of doing something different with a manifold blower.

George...thanks for the input, not the way I'm looking to go on this project.

Just wanted to throw another option at you. They (Weiand/Holley/B & M) are real POWERFUL street blowers that are made to last FOREVER and are easy to adapt than engine (I've done 3). Hope everything turnes out OK.


GTO George

[Tom Vaught]

Originally Posted by KGTO

Tom... I'm guessing the 2300 but I'll need to revisit that I also saw Edelbrock is now selling a supercharger too. Other than my buddy being a Magnusson dealer I like the smaller size and sound/power these are able to produce. I was thinking it would be a unique way to make some fun power on the street with a wicked sound. The other option would of course be a centrifugal/blow through and I could probably get the whole thing under the hood. I just like the thought of doing something different with a manifold blower.

George...thanks for the input, not the way I'm looking to go on this project.

Speaking of sound. A guy I knew, decided to put a gear drive Cam Timing Set on his Chebby. Bolted everything on just fine, engine started fine, made lots of gear noise.

Could hear him coming a half a city block away. Cool for the first time you heard it then annoying (kind of like George) Just Kidding George.

Lasted barely a week before he removed the Gear stuff, sold it to a drag racer, and put a STREET factory timing chain back on the engine.

Tom V.

[brut4s]

@KGTO did you do this?

[Tom Vaught]

6 Months later, INFO??

Tom V.

[Tom Vaught]

If I had to pick between a Magnuson S/C, Eaton S/C, Whipple S/C, or the Edelbrock S/C, The Whipple would be first, the Magnuson second, the Eaton third, and the Edelbrock last.
(Based on experience level in the Twisted Rotor and Screw Rotor S/C market.)

Talking about Twisted Rotor modern designs now, not old school Roots stuff.

Tom V.

[brut4s]

I was thinking the Magnuson would be the best also no first hand knowledge just from people I've talked to with one and what I've read.

[Tom Vaught]

Jerry Magnuson was a heck of a guy, extremely innovative, and well liked in the Boost Community. RIP Jerry 2015.

He did his dual Supercharger set-up years ago that worked well and later did his ""Flipped Inlet" Supercharger where he used a jackshaft to drive the S/C pulley with the S/C drive pulley located in the firewall area and the S/C inlet near the radiator. Just the opposite of most rear entry twisted vane S/C Installations.

The new owner bought Jerry out about 2010 timeframe. Not sure outside of keeping the name Magnuson Superchargers if the quality has changed much.

The older stuff was really good and made by Eaton Superchargers in Marshall, Michigan.
They have a nice S/C Engineering Center there.

Tom V.

[KGTO]

Originally Posted by brut4s

@KGTO did you do this?

Originally Posted by Tom Vaught

6 Months later, INFO??

Tom V.

Sorry guys....I ended up buying another business and put the project back a bit...didn't help that my body man pushed me back a couple of times too ( going through the whole car). I also bought a CTS-V and been playing with that this summer pretty easy 11 sec daily driver

I did have Brian Macy from the EFI Store quote me out what I need on the EFI, then I went off from the blower to looking at the Kinsler EFI set up (IR manifold). I thought that would be a bit more simple and yet impressive looking under the hood. I thought the EFI would have more tunability but Brian says it's no different than the MFI IR intakes and I will not like it for a street car. So I am back to the Maggie...

The new idea I am contemplating is using a blower intake like in the picture and place the brick inside, have it attach to a flat lid that seals the plenum and the supercharger attaches to it as well. I was thinking I could run the coolant lines through the opening for the burst panel. Install the reservoir up front by the core support and mount a heat exchanger behind the bumper. Anyhow thats where we are now...

[Tom Vaught]

KGTO, I believe that you could use a Inter-cooler inside the manifold you posted a picture of if you did two things: a) build by welding or machine from billet a 4 sided wall around the bolt pattern on the intake in your picture that would get you some inter-cooler height
room. See pic #2 as an example) A Inter-cooler "brick" like you are proposing would have to be roughly 4.5" across by 4.5" tall to be effective after a supercharger. b) The length would depend on the front to back dimension on the blower intake in the picture. Gale Banks made a piece similar to what you are proposing for the Giesler Bonneville Salt Flats Studebaker about 2001 timeframe. Ok for a Bonneville car, not so good on a drag car as would be hard to see the bulb depending on the design.

You have a lot of variables that you have not locked down in your latest thought process.
Keep working on the idea though. Banks and Geisler had a working piece. I was there.
You can see the supercharger in picture #1

Tom V.

[KGTO]

Great pics thanks for sharing. Really like the one of the salt. Looking at the inside of the plenum seems like the opposite of the LSA supercharger on my V. Instead of blowing the air up into the lid though, it blows down and sweeps into the ports...very cool.

How difficult would it be to fab a sheet metal adapter to go from a Pontiac head to the intake on the Magnuson Heartbeat intake? seems like it could be done using two flanges if there is enough room. Plus with the separate valley on the Pontiac helps.

[Tom Vaught]

There has been discussions about low mount TB bottom feed intake manifolds on the PY Board.

To adapt the Magnuson unit shown you would have to figure out how to get the air from the runner discharges to the intake runners and the fact that the system might be pretty tall.

Tom V.