[burd]

My test came back. I’m in the clear.

[dataway]

Holy crap ... you got a lot of other stuff though

[avman]

Lots of people had been infected with COVID-19 and thought they had "a bad cold" or influenza, took OTC stuff for their symptoms, and went on with life.
New Orleans is climbing rapidly on numbers of people who test positive for COVID-19, and most agree that was because of the MASS of people who came here for Mardi Gras, in THE LAST 2-3 WEEKS OF FEBRUARY. So there were people jammed into the bars, restaurants, crowded parade routes, etc.
Keep that date range in mind, and the end of it, but the biggest day was FEBRUARY 25TH.
So now about 4 weeks later, we've gone from a few cases, to a few hundred, to over 1,000.
That's how long COVID-19 has "been around", at least since the last week or so of February.
On another important note, the Veterans Administration hospital in New Orleans has been treating their COVID-19 patients with hydroxychloroquine and azithromyacin, FOR WEEKS that is what they have SUCCESSFULLY been using, so it's not just "promising" IT'S PROTOCOL!

[dataway]

Daily dose of numbers.

How many people a year die in the US?
2,712,630 .... yes, 2.71 MILLION people a year.

That is 7,397 people per DAY.
If it's worse than they say, and the virus kills 100,000 people, that would increase our yearly death TOTAL by 3.6%. Or our normal death rate from 0.82 of 1% to 0.85 of 1%


In NYC on the average day 189 people die, before the virus.
Media says the NYC morgues are piling up bodes, bringing in refrigerator trucks. If 20 extra people a day in NYC die from the virus ... that's an additional 10.5% above normal ... hardly cause for piling up bodies, and would mean that NYC morgues are operating at total capacity BEFORE the virus.

It's irresponsible journalism to throw numbers at the average Joe without putting them in understandable perspective.

[dataway]

500,000 = 0.000066% of the world population.

24,000 deaths = 1 out of every 312,000 people

25,890 people will die this week worldwide in road accidents.

In the last eight weeks since this virus has become widely known ... 207,120 people have died in road accidents worldwide.

[dataway]

Oh it's serious, and will get more serious. And anyone in a high risk group should definitely take precautions. Current social distancing and stuff could make a big difference.

My problem is that right now most of the issues and problems seen by the average person is not due to the virus at all, it's due to the panic and over reaction to the virus.

Much like the food situation, no one is eating more food, they are just buying more food, and they are just buying more food because of panic. We are creating additional problems out of thin air, which cascades and leads to serious issues that need not exist at all.

Think about the old woman living alone who has to drive to three different stores to find enough food ... totally unnecessary and totally created by people that have blown this out of proportion.

My wife told me when she was doing our weekly grocery shopping and saw all the toilet paper gone ... she felt a pang of panic ... like she should have gotten some, even though we always have about 30 rolls on hand. That's how it happens, people are inundated with bad news, they see other people panic, they panic, it's human nature that needs to be controlled.

I'll still back up my wager, this virus will never kill more people in a week, than die in road accidents in a week. I don't say that to make light of the situation, but to put it into a perspective the average person can relate to. But people don't want to mentally and emotionally process that, it's in our nature to gear up, respond to a new threat, it's part of our survival mechanism, but can also be our downfall if it's not controlled.

[gtohurstjudge]

This morning in Sherman, Tx. I bought gas for 1.39 a gallon.

[dataway]

This what happens when people panic and have no toilet paper.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t4A1tWzlJW8

[burd]

They are saying this whole thing is a scam. No one knows anyone that is sick, 5 G is the cause.

[OG68]

My wife tells me that the Philippines are under Stay At Home orders. Some local officials are punishing offenders by locking them up in a coffin for 8 hours.

[bird72]

Stay at home in effect in Montana at midnight. Store, travel for care for others, travel to recreate outdoors somewhere is OK. It won't change my world of last week or more. Had our first fatality and numbers creeping up.

[dataway]

I feel left out that on the gas prices ... since I'm not driving to work I don't need any gas.

[bird72]

New Jersey

[dataway]

Definitely bringing people together in spirit if not in space. Had numerous friends email me and ask if all is well. Strangely enough the vast majority of the concern is for the economic situation, not the actual virus.

[avman]

Originally Posted by dataway

Definitely bringing people together in spirit if not in space. Had numerous friends email me and ask if all is well. Strangely enough the vast majority of the concern is for the economic situation, not the actual virus.

THAT is where the majority of the concern SHOUD be.
No hair on fire from the ANNUAL death in the 10s of thousands EVERY YEAR from influenza.
There's an agenda behind the hype.

[Baron Von Zeppelin]

North Carolina goes into the heavy duty mandatory Stay-Home, Monday at 5pm.
No more than 10 at any gathering etc... it was 50
Probably what majority of states have already had enacted.
Through April 28, until further notice otherwise.


My brother runs a hospital in Rochester NY and they are overwhelmed.
Also big problems with supply chain of basic essential supplies like masks and gloves.
Whole different ballgame up there

[pont3]

Originally Posted by avman

THAT is where the majority of the concern SHOUD be.
No hair on fire from the ANNUAL death in the 10s of thousands EVERY YEAR from influenza.
There's an agenda behind the hype.

I agree with this, and, I believe there is more to this whole "pandemic" than meets the eye.

I have six siblings and thirty cousins that live in every state on the east coast from New York to Florida, and I myself in the Midwest along with a few in Texas and Oklahoma.

Not a SINGLE one has contracted Covid-19 or know of anyone PERSONALLY who has. And this doesn't include the multitude of friends and aquaintancies that I have less frequent contact with.

I also wonder why there is no mention of ethic mix when it comes to defining the most vulnerable. I'm sure that such a revelation would probably lead to more "racist" proclamations and such, but I think that would be vital in nailing down where our emphasis should be focused.

[A.J.]

In Sweden they only test hospitalized, hospital personel and dead as the disease is spread uncontrolled in the society hence are the deathtoll numbers the only figures that counts. The key word we hear all the time is heard imunity.....
The numbers are as of 27/3 3046 infected, 92 deaths and 214 in intensive care.
The worst area is Stockholm with 1300 infected and 60 deaths. The problem is that the Stockholm city people are still going to ski resorts up north or fleeing to their summer houses spreading the infection and adding stress to the medical resources in the small municipalities which makes the locals react. The business is good but if you get sick there will be less chance of getting help as the summer guests will also occupy the local hospital.
The high schools and universities are closed but all other schools and kindergartens etc are still open. Crowds over 50 people are forbidden effective from 27/3 but with an exception for stores and workplaces etc. The general recommendation is that if you hav any symptoms of a cold or flu like a runny nose or soar throath you should stay at home from work or school.
I was told that I was not welcome to work due to a runny nose and mild soar throath, no fever, and that I had to call in sick. You are welcome back when you have been symtom free for 48 hours. Been home for a week and a half now but should be fit to get back to work on Monday but I guess people will walk in wide circles around me or avoid me.

[Formulabruce]

Lots are coming NORTH to campsites that are closed, etc.Down in RI there are issues.
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[Stuart]

Calm down, people - this is a place for discussion of the issue. Don't turn it into an argument about whether it's is a big deal or not, or if it's some country's fault or not, or if there's a government coverup, or any of that kind of stuff or I'll have to close the thread.

Thank you.