[scott70]

Originally Posted by turbo69bird

Here’s what a model X plaid is actually like in Pontiac talk.
It’s a 71 GTO wagon , resto modded w corvette brakes , suspension and wheels , an aftermarket block alluminum head 535 w an 88 mm turbo on it that makes 1020 hP runs on pump gas , w fuel injection and a nice quiet exhaust.

That’s what would be equivalent in Pontiac.

Id take the 1 wagon you describe over 2 of the teslas. Im glad you like your EV...nothing wrong with that. People need to realize to not expect everyone else to be on board though. The EV makes a good option,,,but its not a requirement or a solution.

[Stuart]

Non-Tesla cars can now use Tesla charging stations, but it does require an adapter. https://www.theverge.com/2023/3/1/23...ent-access-app The reverse is also true, Teslas can use non-Tesla charging stations but again an adapter is needed.

[getmygoat]

Tesla is rolling out its "magic dock" chargers that can charge both tesla and non-tesla cars. For non-tesla users, you setup your account via a phone app and then scan a QR code on the charger to bill your account. Quite seamless.

Tesla's charging network is a major differentiator when considering what brand of EV to purchase. I haven't charged at a non-home charger in two years, but for those traveling substantial distances it obviously becomes important (also those living in apartments/ no garage/driveway.).

I pay 3 cents per mile for electric from my home charger - oh, and the car literally drives itself (well almost).

[jerry455]

Yes, I see the results from the "self driving" Tesla crashes on the news. I thought the government is investigating Tesla for their problem.

[kingbuzzo]

go fox go...they should have their own class anyways

[TAKerry]

I have a friend with a model 3 (I think thats what its called). He just took an extended vacation travelling about 3 weeks on the road. He was very happy with the overall experience. Said the biggest issue was thinking ahead about where to stop for a charge and that it took awhile when doing so.

[Sirrotica]

At the end of the day you'll never be able to get a car charged in the same amount of time you can fill a gas tank. The EV is an answer to a question few people are asking.

Musk has already determined that a wholesale switchover is absolutely impossible due to the aged electric infrastructure. Trillions of dollars to upgrade it, and 30 years of time. I'll be dead and buried before it happens, if it happens. Color me gasoline.

The best thing for our atmoshere is quit cutting down trees, and plant more. Plant life needs CO2 to exist so why aren't we planting more trees?

[KS circutguy]

Originally Posted by Sirrotica

At the end of the day you'll never be able to get a car charged in the same amount of time you can fill a gas tank. The EV is an answer to a question few people are asking.

Musk has already determined that a wholesale switchover is absolutely impossible due to the aged electric infrastructure. Trillions of dollars to upgrade it, and 30 years of time. I'll be dead and buried before it happens, if it happens. Color me gasoline.

The best thing for our atmoshere is quit cutting down trees, and plant more. Plant life needs CO2 to exist so why aren't we planting more trees?

How Many Trees Are Planted Every Year? What Types and How Many Should You Plant?

According to compiled statistics, including the United Nations Environmental Program, approximately 1.9 billion trees are planted yearly.1

This statistic also estimates that close to 158 million trees around the planet are replanted every month. And out of the 158 million trees, 5 million are replanted each day, and approximately 7 thousand are planted every minute.1

The world plans to plant at least 1 trillion trees by 2030.
https://8billiontrees.com/trees/how-...ted-each-year/

[b-man]

Numerous posts removed.

If you guys want to argue about politically charged topics like climate change use the Club House.

[Vid]

In a couple of weeks I’ll be traveling to TN and when booking my trip, couldn’t help but notice that the Hertz website was pretty gung-ho on renting Tesla Model 3’s and Model Y’s. A Tesla for the price of an econobox? Why not. I reserved a Y more out of curiosity than anything else.

I guess I’ll carve a notch in the dashboard for each time I get coal-rolled?


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[455dan]

Originally Posted by Vid

In a couple of weeks I’ll be traveling to TN and when booking my trip, couldn’t help but notice that the Hertz website was pretty gung-ho on renting Tesla Model 3’s and Model Y’s. A Tesla for the price of an econobox? Why not. I reserved a Y more out of curiosity than anything else.

I guess I’ll carve a notch in the dashboard for each time I get coal-rolled?


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Just a suggestion - rent a Performance model if they give a choice.
It better be a pretty quick diesel to cover you in soot since any of the P models are 3.7 to 60 or quicker. The Long Range models are around 4.8 to 60

Took a mothers day Montana road trip in the Cummins powered 2500 RAM today.
Almost 20 MPG and the wife likes the truck seats "much" better than the Tesla model Y's

[kingbuzzo]

https://www.autoblog.com/2023/07/15/...duction-texas/

[kingbuzzo]

https://www.autoblog.com/2023/06/09/...la-cybertruck/

[jhein]

Anyone? No, not anyone.

[kingbuzzo]

https://www.autoblog.com/2023/07/21/...-electric-car/

[post toastie]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gKhjvAwcScQ this pontiac ICE kicked some tesla butt

[post toastie]

and another pontiac ice kicking tesla butt https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bRXrrfx1IGM

[The Champ]

Something Tesla owners (and EV customers in general) should think about before investing in an EV:

'Why Tesla Cars Get Totaled So Easily'

https://www.businessinsider.com/why-...r-costs-2023-6

Crash your shiny new Tesla?

You may be in for a surprise when you get an estimate from your insurance company about getting it fixed.

Insurers are increasingly writing off — or "totaling" — a Tesla even after light damage because of their complexity and cost for repairs, according to the market-watchers at Kelley Blue Book.

How 'green' is an EV if you can't reasonably repair it after a minor fender bender?

What is the carbon footprint for 6 month old Tesla that goes to the scrap heap after just 5,000 miles?

[dhcarguy]

Not sure if someone already posted this. There is a Tesla dealership getting built just around the corner from me. I will get to see (and maybe drive) what Tesla has to offer in person. It is in Bucks County, Pa.(Warminster)

[jerry455]

Oh my gosh is that truck ugly. I am sure all of the Tesla fanboys will be going crazy over it.