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Trivia time
Each of these snowflakes was available on a different Pontiac. Which were they ? Which one is missing ?
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There are actually 2 variations of the lower right in the lip edge. More trivia.
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and many variations on color. How many know why there was a redbird but not a bluebird.
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Who really cares?
I have 8 WS6 in gold.
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Upper left looks like 13" FWD used on the Phoenix, upper right 13" RWD used on Astre & Sunbird's, Middle is 14X7 used on Firebirds? Bottom left 15X7 Used on F, G, B, & A bodies, and lower right is 15X8 used on WS6 equipped T/A's & Formula's. But I don't know what one is missing
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Jeff R 60 Jaguar Mark 2, 3.8L Automatic 67 Sprint Firebird 230 OHC-6 4-Speed A/C 78 Catlina Safari, Pontiac 400 powered 77 Astre Formula, 215 Buick V-8 T-5 73 Lemans Safari, 400 4bbl 4-speed 71 Catalina Enforcer, 455 4bbl 06 Mallet Solstice #024 LS2, Now with a Tremec 6060 6-speed! 2012 F-150 Echo Boost (My local Ford Dealer SUX!!!) 2020 Dodge Charger Scat pack (recovered) |
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Close: middle is 14x6 used on A, B, and G bodies. Pretty sure 15" was Firebird only and was available in most colors (natural, gold, red, blue,...) 13x6 on upper left is 5x100, right is 4x100. Rest are 5x120.7 (4 3/4). Thought there was a 5x127 (5") for big cars but could not find one.
Had 14x6 on front and 15x7 on rear of last Corvair. |
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And is the missing flake the 15x7 later variation used 79-81 f-bodys? |
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What I suspect bird is referring to, is the 15 x 8 wheel. It has the deeper dish with a lip on the outside. There were a couple of manufacturers of that wheel, the webbing is a different size from wheel to wheel.
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They never made a 5X5 bolt pattern Snowflake that I know of, one of the reasons I don't have them on my 78 Catalina Wagon.
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Jeff R 60 Jaguar Mark 2, 3.8L Automatic 67 Sprint Firebird 230 OHC-6 4-Speed A/C 78 Catlina Safari, Pontiac 400 powered 77 Astre Formula, 215 Buick V-8 T-5 73 Lemans Safari, 400 4bbl 4-speed 71 Catalina Enforcer, 455 4bbl 06 Mallet Solstice #024 LS2, Now with a Tremec 6060 6-speed! 2012 F-150 Echo Boost (My local Ford Dealer SUX!!!) 2020 Dodge Charger Scat pack (recovered) |
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Thought back in the day a friend had a set of 5x5s on a big wagon but was in the last century.. Have a couple of stacks that need sorting but mostly bought 15x8s for my Judge.
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Yes the 1978 only WS6 wheel.
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1978 Black & Gold T/A [complete 70 Ram Air III (carb to pan) PQ and 12 bolt], fully loaded, deluxe, WS6, T-Top car - 1972 Formula 455HO Ram Air numbers matching Julep Green - 1971 T/A 455, 320 CFM Eheads, RP cam, Doug's headers, Fuel injection, TKX 5 Spd. 12 Bolt 3.73, 4 wheel disc. All A/C cars |
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I thought I had seen these on a 2 door 80’s Bonneville once. It was black with a think a dark red vinyl top, red pinstripe and red interior. It had snowflakes on it but maybe the owner swapped axles/discs?
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Yes, they had snowflakes on some of the late '70s B-bodies... But apparently there were two different bolt patterns available- on the cars, not the wheels. Heavy- duty suspension and wagons got the 5x5 pattern and lesser models got 4 3/4. At least that's my understanding. My son has had two '77 Bonnevilles and the were both 5x5.
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1966 GTO 1969 Lemans Convertible- F.A.S.T. legal family cruiser. 12.59 on G70-14 Polyglas tires. 1.78 60' 1969 Bonneville Safari- cross country family cruiser. . 1979 Trans Am 400, 4-speed, 4 wheel disc. View from the drivers seat racing down Atco Raceway- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GhYDMdOEC7A Ride along in the other lane-http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mIzgpLtF_uw |
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There is also a snowflake that was 6" wide but still have 5x4 3/4 bolt pattern.
I have a set of these I wanted to use on my car trailer but I would have to change all the hubs and it is difficult to find hubs with that bolt pattern not to mention trailer brake parts like drums.
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1978 Black & Gold T/A [complete 70 Ram Air III (carb to pan) PQ and 12 bolt], fully loaded, deluxe, WS6, T-Top car - 1972 Formula 455HO Ram Air numbers matching Julep Green - 1971 T/A 455, 320 CFM Eheads, RP cam, Doug's headers, Fuel injection, TKX 5 Spd. 12 Bolt 3.73, 4 wheel disc. All A/C cars |
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Significant weight savings when compared to either the Honeycomb or the Rally II.
Pontiac also had aluminum rear drums on some of the late 70's (I think) Bonneville. Jon.
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You are correct. In the John Gunnell book " 75 years of Pontiac Oakland there is a picture on page 517 shows a 1981 Bonneville "B" body with snowflakes. I always thought B bodies were 5X5 ( Never say Never). Reading the caption under the picture it indicates the weight of the base Bonneville to be 3003lbs. Which could justify 4 3/4, but why do this on a last year car before the downsized G Bonneville comes the next year.
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I am not exactly sure what the criteria of 5X4.75 vs 5X5 wheel bolt pattern on the 77-81 Pontiac B-bodies. But yes all Wagons have 5X5, the couple of parts cars I have had with trailer towing packages (both 78 sedans) also have 5X5, but one had a Buick 350 and the other had a Pontiac 400 under the hood.
I did have a 301 powered 79 Catalina coupe that had 5X4.75 though
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Jeff R 60 Jaguar Mark 2, 3.8L Automatic 67 Sprint Firebird 230 OHC-6 4-Speed A/C 78 Catlina Safari, Pontiac 400 powered 77 Astre Formula, 215 Buick V-8 T-5 73 Lemans Safari, 400 4bbl 4-speed 71 Catalina Enforcer, 455 4bbl 06 Mallet Solstice #024 LS2, Now with a Tremec 6060 6-speed! 2012 F-150 Echo Boost (My local Ford Dealer SUX!!!) 2020 Dodge Charger Scat pack (recovered) |
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I've had 2 WS6 TA's (1978's) so I like those rims and know the handling benefits. But for some reason, I also like the look of the 7 inch snowflakes on a TA, They showcase the snowflake pattern well.
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