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Old 01-28-2022, 11:53 AM
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The 3.82 he ran off the trailer this year looked impressive. Car looked like it was glued to the track so I expect him to be right in the mix. Don't know what his class fast cars times are?

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Old 01-28-2022, 12:15 PM
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That's what I thought, a 70 painted similar to a 69 judge.

"Carousel Red" Just painted my Firebird that color. Really pops in the sun. Think it was carried both years 69 and 70.

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Old 01-28-2022, 12:18 PM
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"Carousel Red" Just painted my Firebird that color. Really pops in the sun. Think it was carried both years 69 and 70.
Orbit Orange was the 1970 color.

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Old 01-28-2022, 02:24 PM
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No sure what qualifies as "real" but I guess that makes Jack Gadosh, for example not a real race team. I believe it took him two seasons to finally qualify for his first Pro Stock race. Bill Miller, ran Top fuel for decades and never won a national event or set any Top fuel records, but he arguably had a real race team. I think a race team with an unlimited budget to acquire the very best tried and true hardware and buy the best people to be on the team or contribute would fit your definition. There is always some luck involved in the equation. But then again, even having all these things still does not make you a winner or record setter. Danika Patrick's race career would be an excellent example who had it all and did very little with it.
Jack had used equipment and didn’t have qualifying power. You have well funded pro stock/pro mod teams that win within a few races. Same with many other heads up classes. These are the facts. Can’t compare round-e-round racing with drag racing. Danika had all of the tools but wasn’t a top driver.

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Old 01-28-2022, 03:30 PM
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Orbit Orange was the 1970 color.
Yes Orbit Orange became the poster color for 70 but Carousel red was still available if so wanted on the order sheet. Wow this thread has gone all over the place...LOL.

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Old 01-28-2022, 03:36 PM
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I'm still kinda scratching my head at the comparisons.

Professional classes like NHRA P/S have a cookie-cutter proven combo and if you have it, there is the chance of quick success. Buy a Bickel roller (or whoever is building the best chassis these days?), lease a KB engine, hire an experienced crew chief and go get a trophy.

Pontiac's don't have cookie-cutter proven heads-up combos. It's all experimental.

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In Professional classes like NHRA, you might be better off at the end of the day to just run a Professional Engine (like a BAE or Noonan) and forget about the "Historical" Engines.

Same money at the end of the day but odds are much better for not destroying parts not suited for the application.

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Isn't the port layout and valve locations in the Warp 6 head Tommy was running closer to a 481X than a Pontiac production head?

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Old 06-13-2024, 09:47 AM
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I just heard from Jeff Kauffman that Tommy has the Pontiac back in the '70 GTO

3.943 @ 190.19 April 26, 2024 Rockingham, NC 3145 lbs.

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Great! I'm glad he put the Pontiac back in. I wonder how it compares to the 481X engine ET wise?

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Slow ^^^^

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Great! I'm glad he put the Pontiac back in. I wonder how it compares to the 481X engine ET wise?
I saw a video on YouTube from 3 years ago, personal best of 3.86. Not sure if that was with the 481x or the Pontiac.

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That was the 481 I believe I think a he tickled the 40x range before it crashed with the poncho
His mustang runs like 360 it's a world of difference
Gto is def cooler no matter how fast it is

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Was he able to piece the GTO back together or start from scratch with another car?

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Old 01-26-2025, 09:51 PM
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I see over on fb he fixed the 70 and just went a 3.93 at 188 with the Pontiac motor

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I see over on fb he fixed the 70 and just went a 3.93 at 188 with the Pontiac motor
He ended up also going a 3.93@194

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he broke the track record recently .MPH 200

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he broke the track record recently .MPH 200
200 mph! They found some power should be 3.8s if get it to glue?

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200 mph! They found some power should be 3.8s if get it to glue?
yeah the personal best he said was 3.89

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