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77 TA Coming up for sale
Interesting car. Not much detail on it yet but potentially a very nice car.
https://youtu.be/LKkTH82x8xs https://youtu.be/P7QrUo4mGE8?t=1 https://youtu.be/iTahZVGycvM https://www.foxtailclassiccars.com/Gallery/Item/56925
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70 TA, 467 cid IAII, Edelbrock D-port heads, 9.94:1, Butler HR 236/242 @ .050, 520/540 lift, 112 LSA, Q-jet, TKX (2.87 1st/.81 OD), 3.31 rear https://youtube.com/shorts/gG15nb4FWeo?feature=share |
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It looks like it was just listed on Bring a Trailer.
https://bringatrailer.com/listing/19...c-firebird-43/
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Auction is what I thought would happen with a car like that. That's what I would do.
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70 TA, 467 cid IAII, Edelbrock D-port heads, 9.94:1, Butler HR 236/242 @ .050, 520/540 lift, 112 LSA, Q-jet, TKX (2.87 1st/.81 OD), 3.31 rear https://youtube.com/shorts/gG15nb4FWeo?feature=share |
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Isn't a Firebird a Firebird and Trans Am a Trans Am but not both?
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If you go to the parts store (especially these days), it's best to always ask for firebird parts. Then see if the young person asks you any potential options the car has, or specifics about the part you are looking for.
Asking for Trans AM parts just makes things confusing. Nice looking car!!! Paint looks waaay too nice to be original. Wheels have gray centers ,(mine were black). It's very close to my car's options. Mine has AC, but NOT the side trim. Everything else is exactly the same. I just read through the BAT ad. I guess it might have original paint. At 16,000 miles. Looks like it has been well kept. Can anyone elaborate on the title situation. Massachusetts doesn't issue titles for classic vehicles? What??? I like it!
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1977 Black Trans Am 180 HP Auto, essentially base model T/A. I'm the original owner, purchased May 7, 1977. Shut it off Shut it off Buddy, I just shut your Prius down... Last edited by 77 TRASHCAN; 11-28-2022 at 10:23 PM. |
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A sales brochure from 1974 says:
FIREBIRD SERIES FACTS AND FIGURES MODELS Hardtop Coupe, offered under four names: Firebird, Firebird Esprit, Formula Firebird and Firebird Trans Am.
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That's always how I understood it formally. We do get used to talking in slang and abbreviations casually.
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70 TA, 467 cid IAII, Edelbrock D-port heads, 9.94:1, Butler HR 236/242 @ .050, 520/540 lift, 112 LSA, Q-jet, TKX (2.87 1st/.81 OD), 3.31 rear https://youtube.com/shorts/gG15nb4FWeo?feature=share |
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Looks like an honest, unmolested car. Does have this issue on the cowl.
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1976 LeMans B09 Freeway Enforcer, 455/M40 Smokey 1977 Trans Am, 400/M21 Black/Gold Bandit. 44K actual miles 2017 Sierra SLT 1500 Z71 4X4 2019 Canyon SLT Crew 4X4 |
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Yeah, that's a shame on such an otherwise nice looking car. Seems like not a great place to have that.
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70 TA, 467 cid IAII, Edelbrock D-port heads, 9.94:1, Butler HR 236/242 @ .050, 520/540 lift, 112 LSA, Q-jet, TKX (2.87 1st/.81 OD), 3.31 rear https://youtube.com/shorts/gG15nb4FWeo?feature=share |
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Seeing that it is so clean underneath, it could be the result of a rodent nest.
To properly repair, the hood, LH fender and windshield would need to be removed so that a proper patch can be welded in and smoothed out.
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The cowl rust sucks, but is easily fixed. The car is nice enough that dealing with that spot wouldn't stop me from buying it.
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"Those poor souls have made the fatal mistake of surrounding us. Now we can fire in any direction" 1970 Trans Am RAIII 4 speed 1971 Trans Am 5.3 LM7 1977 Trans Am W72 Y82 1987 Grand National |
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Me either. BUT, is there any more damage. My TA hasn't been stored indoors, enough during it life. But does not have holes in it!!!
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1977 Black Trans Am 180 HP Auto, essentially base model T/A. I'm the original owner, purchased May 7, 1977. Shut it off Shut it off Buddy, I just shut your Prius down... |
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Console has a equalizer on the side of it..
Not an SE. This car is a base TA. Bottom was Ice blasted Car was prepped to capitalize on the " black paint" syndrome. Its probably NOT worth what someone will pay for it. Its not special enough to collect really. I would drive it if I owned it.
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I'll stick my neck out and say I think it sells for north of 150K. And if it was a 4 spd I'd say 200K
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70 TA, 467 cid IAII, Edelbrock D-port heads, 9.94:1, Butler HR 236/242 @ .050, 520/540 lift, 112 LSA, Q-jet, TKX (2.87 1st/.81 OD), 3.31 rear https://youtube.com/shorts/gG15nb4FWeo?feature=share |
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Quote:
A couple less options on this car, a.nd it would be a "stripper" TA.
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1977 Black Trans Am 180 HP Auto, essentially base model T/A. I'm the original owner, purchased May 7, 1977. Shut it off Shut it off Buddy, I just shut your Prius down... |
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Hagerty shows a Base 1977 Trans Am in #1 condition valued at around $70K, and in #2 condition around $53K.
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Yes, but in a auction situation that sort of valuation can go right out the window. Especially with a super low mile survivor.
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70 TA, 467 cid IAII, Edelbrock D-port heads, 9.94:1, Butler HR 236/242 @ .050, 520/540 lift, 112 LSA, Q-jet, TKX (2.87 1st/.81 OD), 3.31 rear https://youtube.com/shorts/gG15nb4FWeo?feature=share |
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I would bet my .05c that there is more underneath the hole in the cowell. Mine was worse than that and the entire bottom under the fender was gone. I agree the fender needs to come off and see whats going on there. Easy enough fix though.
As for hagerty, they are a good guide but one must keep in mind that a #1 car is as it sits on the dealership floor. Almost NO use on any component. Very few cars fit in this category. #2 would be what most of us call a trailer queen show car. Most cars that are out and about that we see at local shows and cruises are indeed nice cars but are #3 condition. With the rust hole through, the cut up console and aftermarket radio this one is clearly a #3 at best. Will be interesting to see what it goes for. As an owner of a black 77 I hope it hits the sky!!! IF I were in the market I wouldnt spend more than about $40k on this one and thats only for the originality. |
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Sold today on BaT for $36,000.
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Boy, I was way off on that one.
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70 TA, 467 cid IAII, Edelbrock D-port heads, 9.94:1, Butler HR 236/242 @ .050, 520/540 lift, 112 LSA, Q-jet, TKX (2.87 1st/.81 OD), 3.31 rear https://youtube.com/shorts/gG15nb4FWeo?feature=share |
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