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Old 11-09-2023, 10:39 PM
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I have the Canton stock replacement pan, the fit is fine but it leaks at the drain plug. It has a copper gasket and no matter how tight the plug is it still leaks. I suspect that it may be leaking through the weld. I need to do further investigation to find the leak point. I hope it's not the weld I would hate to have to pull the engine and remove the pan to get it welded.

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Old 11-09-2023, 10:41 PM
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I’ve bought the $60 replacement pans in the past and they always fit well enough. Based on recent posts it’s obvious recent QC is in the toilet.

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Old 11-11-2023, 11:50 AM
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I like the rubber impregnated metal washer for pan plugs like my 97 Chevy truck came with.

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Old 12-27-2023, 04:49 PM
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I've got a '75 TA 400 I bought new.

I've got some oil issues on hard cornering at the track. In my last outing, i tripped the oil pressure light which I added and is set to 10psi

I'm running 17inch Z rated rubber, which may have something to do with it

I running IJ crank scrapers, a 3/4 windage tray, and a Canton shallow road race pan. I'm running a quart over full. No accusump.

I've been doing a lot of internet "research" and I think not a lot of thought has gone into the design of the canton pan. The shallow canton could have been an inch and a quarter deeper without any ground clearance issues. The orientation of the baffles allows the contents behind the baffles to drain on hard cornering and especially on braking. The supplied pickup is a half inch off the bottom, rather than a more optimal quarter inch.

I've been doing a lot of thought experiments and I've designed my own pan. I'm going to use 'diamond' shaped baffling like in some of the more modern designs on the web. I'll base it on either the stock or the canton pan, deepened one inch.

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Old 12-28-2023, 11:10 AM
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I've used the Milodon 'regular' pan in the past and fit & finish is great. They have a baffle, but obviously nothing like the street/strip pan or the road race pan, but better than stock.

The regular pan when painted looks close to the OE pan, but if one looks closely, can tell it's not OE.



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Old 06-29-2024, 10:31 AM
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In the end I found that it wasn't the pan but the drain plug that came with it. The sealing surface had some imperfections on the sealing surface that were bad enough that the copper washer would not seal it up. I called Canton and they sent me a new drain plug.

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The fit of the Canton pick-up (for their 15-452 pan) to my Melling 54D pump was ****ty. Since the tube wasn't actually sealed to the port, it had to be fully welded as there would've been a suction leak.
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Ahhhh, maybe just me, but why does ames/bulter or whoever sell this stuff not even check to see if its any good one way or the other............i would rather pay triple to get a decent part, i had to throw away two pans that were so far off..............lose more money in return shipping than the pan itself half the time..........guess thats the way it is.

Im sure im gonna get, you should be thankful they make parts for a pontiac...............if your gonna make a part for the pontiac, at least get it somewhat close.

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Old 06-30-2024, 07:28 PM
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I agree- Ames used to be good at critiquing parts but as of late, they have lots of parts without objective review - the core support for 68-70 GTOs is a good example of this.

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