[Keith Seymore]

https://www.hotcars.com/earliest-196...xist-for-sale/

Please discuss quietly amongst yourselves.

K

[Keith Seymore]

Ok - I'll start.

a. "only the fourth vehicle to roll off the assembly line at the Pontiac" - not sure how one can even begin to spin that line. For the '64 model year VINs started at 1001, so the fourth vehicle off the line would be closer to xxxP1004. With this vehicle's VIN of 824P8954 it's not even close.

Perhaps the author misspoke, and meant the 4th GTO off the line? Not sure how one comes up with that, either, since GTOs were not built or VINned one right after the other. You'd have to go through every invoice, one by one at PHS (ala Fred Simmonds) to make that determination. Maybe Jim Mattison did that on behalf of an earlier owner, as he does occasionally add notes to the cover letter as warranted.

b. We have the VIN and build sheet for the purported first GTO, as presented by John Sawruk. That car was built September 11, 1963 and the VIN is P3147. Am I to believe that there were only 4 GTOs built between 3147 and 8954? Seems like a pretty big gap.



I'd love to see the cowl tag but could not find any additional pictures at this Saratoga Motorcar auction site.

So - anybody here have a '64 GTO earlier than VIN 8954?

K

[johnta1]

I got a 404 error on your link?



Try this maybe?

64 GTO

[johnta1]

One post reply on the site says that it is a 'Post' car not a hardtop like they say.





They say they have the window sticker or something, should have posted that also?

[Baron Von Zeppelin]

Looks to be very well done.
All the claims are BS , except in one spot they only say "one of the first GTOs built for 64" .
If it was billed in Sept 63 , that can be considered -somewhat- realistic.

The title calls it the earliest GTO known , sooner or later those always get busted.
But it can be true with limited resources and samples,,, for a while.