[keith k]

Originally Posted by poncho-mike

I parted out a very rusty 1970 Ram III automatic with performance axle. It was white with deluxe blue interior, non-a/c. It came out of the Bluefield WV area.

Any idea how many column shift automatics were made? I have one, and I've seen one other 1970 column shift automatic. It was a low option white car.

That's another one that's difficult to determine, just because the transmission isn't specified on the invoices.

A little over 20% of the invoices that I have copies of do not include a console, but those cars were mostly equipped with 4-speeds. I have seen only maybe a handful of column shift auto trans cars over the years. It had to be a small single digit percentage...

[7t4mula]

My ‘70 Formula was originally a column shift automatic. It’s the only one I’ve ever seen myself personally.

[Held for Ransom]

I'll add the one I posted is/was a YZ/PQ car.

[Baron Von Zeppelin]

Those 2 cars I mentioned - unless crashed total losses - have to still exist in someone's long term collection .
They were fully optioned other than trim rings , and both were drip rail non-decor iirc.

Automatic was in Greensboro for about 4 years then sold to a fellow in High Point NC named David Payne around late 87 or early 88. Full #s car , kind of tired engine , very tired repaint , nice interior.

4spd was in Myrtle Beach SC at a Corvette dealer around early 1986.
Immaculate , full #s car.
It had the dome/map light installed at some point.

I tried to buy both of those cars. $500 difference in opinions was a lot more money back then.

[J GLASGO]

Keith, any of these cars from Knafel in Akron?

[Baron Von Zeppelin]

Another rare check point would be cloth interior.
Have only seen one personally in the flesh with Black cloth.
Blue 4spd AC #s car that an older gentleman in Rockingham NC owned for a long time.
He was the second owner. Excellent car.

Keith you probably have the invoice for that car.
It was flipped a couple of times on eBay (10-15 years ago)

[keith k]

Originally Posted by J GLASGO

Keith, any of these cars from Knafel in Akron?

Just one ... a white/blue deluxe automatic car with very low mileage, that had been retrofitted with RA IV top end. It's been awhile, and my memory is rusty, but I seem to recall you had either owned or were very involved with this one?

[keith k]

Originally Posted by Baron Von Zeppelin

Another rare check point would be cloth interior.
Have only seen one personally in the flesh with Black cloth.
Blue 4spd AC #s car that an older gentleman in Rockingham NC owned for a long time.
He was the second owner. Excellent car.

Keith you probably have the invoice for that car.
It was flipped a couple of times on eBay (10-15 years ago)

Yes, I do have that one. Nice car. It's one of 4 cloth interior cars that I have invoice copies for. There's one other blue/black cloth car, an automatic that was sold new in Alaska, and appears to be in nice shape still. And there are two with sandalwood cloth: a white one that was sold out of PA on eBay in 2007 as a rolling shell with its interior gone, and the blue one that I own.

[Formulabruce]

IIRC the tinted Glass option was only for cars WITHOUT AC, as I think they are included in an AC car.

[Transamric]

Am I the only one here that is a bit antsy with posters showing invoices with key codes showing? Seems like it could be asking for trouble from the criminally leaning types.

[72projectbird]

Originally Posted by Transamric

Am I the only one here that is a bit antsy with posters showing invoices with key codes showing? Seems like it could be asking for trouble from the criminally leaning types.

I'm not worried about it.

[muscle_collector]

those year cars are so easy to steal who needs a key anyway.

[skunkwerks]

Originally Posted by Transamric

Am I the only one here that is a bit antsy with posters showing invoices with key codes showing? Seems like it could be asking for trouble from the criminally leaning types.

Not worried as I don't park my car outside or leave it unattended per insurance regs. Most if not all collector car insurance states this.

[VCho455]

It warms my heart that almost 70% of them came without air conditioning.

[3tas4me]

Here is the PHS on my Blue RAIII 4-speed.

[keith k]

Originally Posted by 3tas4me

Here is the PHS on my Blue RAIII 4-speed.

Thx. Awesome car!
Interestingly, that's the second invoice I've collected for one from Andy Klein in Overland Park. The other one is a white/black 4-speed that was built 01A.

[Tellyshavilli]

Would be interested to find out how many cars came with sandalwood interior especially blue ones.

[poncho-mike]

What's the lowest number of options?

I had a 1970 4-spd that only had one option: AM radio. It had non-tinted glass, 4-spd with standard rear end, and no console. I have a bunch of old PHS sheets in a box that I haven't seen since I moved to Raleigh in 1992. I suspect they're in the attic waiting to be found.

[keith k]

Originally Posted by Tellyshavilli

Would be interested to find out how many cars came with sandalwood interior especially blue ones.

If I include all of the 70 TAs I've recorded information on, currently at 438 cars, I have 13 of them with Sandalwood interior, so ~3%. There are 7 white ones, and 6 blue (yours and mine are included in that number). Note the percentages I gave for options up in the initial post were based only on the cars I have actual PHS invoices for, which is about half of them.

[keith k]

Originally Posted by poncho-mike

What's the lowest number of options?

I had a 1970 4-spd that only had one option: AM radio. It had non-tinted glass, 4-spd with standard rear end, and no console. I have a bunch of old PHS sheets in a box that I haven't seen since I moved to Raleigh in 1992. I suspect they're in the attic waiting to be found.

Out of a little over 200 invoices, there are 10 that show two options ... usually something like AM Radio and tinted glass, or AM Radio and console.

There are two that show only one option. One of those has AM Radio, and the other one has "HD Radiator". The Heavy Duty Radiator was often added as mandatory content on the invoice of cars that were ordered with the M21 trans (which itself was a no cost option). So the buyer of the latter car may have thought they were not ordering ANY extra cost options.

I have no invoices that show zero options.