[johns]

Brutally slow today-

[GTOken]

Im getting to the point of skipping this site unless I just have time to waste.

[7t4mula]

Yeah, I’m a pretty patient guy, but just don’t spend any time on here anymore hardly because it’s so painfully slow.
Reminds me of the old dial up modem stuff years ago!

[242177P]

Even with the site being incredibly slow, spammers
still keep registering. I reported one, and after like a
minute I saw a "SSL handshake failed" message.

[tempest1964]

Has anyone contacted the admin?

[Scarebird]

It is slow and creaky at times but it is the best I know of for Pontiacs.

Patience, guys - this will get resolved.

[george kujanski]

Really responding slow....
I'll make a deal, fix the issue for more than a few hours, like permanently, and I'll make a donation.

George

update...even posting this took forever.

[67Lemons]

I really value and appreciate this site like most, I’d be willing to pay a subscription fee just to get it running like it should and protect against scammers.

[TimsTA]

Originally Posted by george kujanski

Really responding slow....
I'll make a deal, fix the issue for more than a few hours, like permanently, and I'll make a donation.

George

update...even posting this took forever.

I’ll go get another cup of coffee and see if something happens……………………..

[KS circutguy]

Just in case you missed it!

[Held for Ransom]

Oh, I agree. Quite painful. It's like they're trying to get rid of the few remaining members. Forget about getting new members. The ones who do join will probably be spammers/scammers anyways.

[b-man]

I’ve contacted the owners / admins through both PM and alerting them through the system (clicking on the red triangle and expressing concerns in an email). I haven’t received alert or PM notifications by email for quite some time so I’m assuming they’re not either.

Nothing, no response so far.

I guess we’ll see.

Meanwhile maybe a few of you should be doing the same, try contacting the admins (Ccass and eric_cspan) rather than posting threads they’re not likely to see.

Unfortunately ever since the sale of the Performance Years retail business to Ames Performance the owners of the forum realize zero financial / advertising benefit from keeping the forums running.

Between maintaining Pypes Exhaust (which had far surpassed the PY parts business) and Cold Case Radiators I’m sure they’re quite busy and their interest in visiting here has waned.

[burd]

The staff needs to know how to do some maint each day. It’s easy, when’s the last database defrag and all the loges were emptied.

[rwfisher]

Be great to see this site hosted by the same Supercar Registry uses. That site has few issues and they do pretty well at keeping the bots and scammers out…

[einstein]

Originally Posted by b-man

Unfortunately ever since the sale of the Performance Years retail business to Ames Performance the owners of the forum realize zero financial / advertising benefit from keeping the forums running.

Well, clearly, there's still traffic. Doesn't Ames benefit? Should/would they be interested in taking ownership?

Originally Posted by b-man

Between maintaining Pypes Exhaust (which had far surpassed the PY parts business) and Cold Case Radiators I’m sure they’re quite busy and their interest in visiting here has waned.

That's great for them but a bit disappointing. Seems the new ventures may have never happened unless PY had been successful

Thanks for your efforts on reaching out to them, Bart, and updating the rest of us.

[Half-Inch Stud]

Inconceivably slow.

[dataway]

It really does have the feel of an already abandoned site.

There is something fundamentally wrong somewhere, isp, server software, forum software, I don't know, but it's broken on a core level.

Where do donations to the forum go? Are they actually used on forum upkeep? Some level of transparency would be a help. Is there ad revenue that can be generated from non-automotive sources? Often a site that generates this level of activity can see some monetary gain from advertising.

Is the ISP a small town outfit left over from the dial-up days? Owned by a brother-in-law ... etc. Does it need to move to a proper forum hosting provider?

I've been on dozens of "niche" forums with considerable traffic that have been running smooth and affordably for decades.

I've seen this before, it snowballs. No one will say how much it costs to run the site, no one knows how the finances operate, donations requested but no "goal" is stated, people don't see progress on problems so they stop donating.

And ... is there anyone actually "in charge" ?

[mgarblik]

The forum is certainly running slower than ever. But I posted my understanding and hope that it would get straightened out in a reasonable time frame. But the posts from Bart and a few others concern me some. I am a very loyal person, sometimes to a fault. I do buy the vast majority of my restoration parts from Ames Performance and talk up the aspect that Ames supports the hobby, unlike all the other vendors. I was a good friend of Steve Ames from the beginning to his passing. We all know that the vast majority of parts Ames sells are the exact same stuff all the other vendors sell. They may be re-bagged, carry a different part number, or be priced slightly different. Yes, I know, Ames has some specific parts that are unique to their company, but not that much. My point is, I always go to Ames first, and I am even willing to pay a little more for Ames parts vs the other vendors, because of their support of this forum. With Steve Ames passing, and if Ames gives up on this forum and lets it die, why would anyone go out of their way to seek out Ames as a first choice for their parts needs?

So the owners may say they derive NO benefit from this forum, but they may see a drop in sales if it goes away. I can't say for sure, but I can't be the only one who helps Ames Performance succeed through their support of this forum. Let me know if I am.

[dataway]

I'm on late at night right now, 1am CST, seems to be running pretty fast.

Being sensitive to overall internet/server traffic makes me think it's possibly an overloaded ISP, or forum host server as opposed to a problem with the forum itself.


Correction: Took about three minutes for this to post.

[KS circutguy]

Originally Posted by dataway

I'm on late at night right now, 1am CST, seems to be running pretty fast.

Being sensitive to overall internet/server traffic makes me think it's possibly an overloaded ISP, or forum host server as opposed to a problem with the forum itself.


Correction: Took about three minutes for this to post.

Same results here.
It's not surprising considering they really have not maintained or updated the software in a long time.
I would guess they are just rebooting the server to fix it, to no avail.
It's 10 year old software...