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Old 02-24-2026, 05:28 PM
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Cowl Tag paid code 06 06. I have to have some paint work down as the bumper, hood and fender were damaged in transit so will be putting the scoops correct to black! is there a paint code for that? also what is off with the red lugs? i thought those came in 70? sorry just learning all the nuances here
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Old 02-24-2026, 05:31 PM
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Does your trim tag have 60 or 06 as the paint code?
Build date?

Nice looking Judge
thank you. 06 06 paint code shipped date 1-21-70 where do I find the actual build date?

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Old 02-24-2026, 05:32 PM
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Did they have a Pontiac dealer there?
(I don't have a listing for one)


A PHS and cowl tag pic would be nice.


Elhart Pontiac in Holland, MI The dealership is now owned by Ziegler and is a combined GM/Hyundai dealership.

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Old 02-24-2026, 05:34 PM
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I do a cars and coffee one a year at my place, you gotta roll in. (Woodward & Sq Lake)
I would love that! what is your business? I'm by Woodward in Birmingham daily

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Old 02-24-2026, 05:46 PM
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Here it is at Mecum .
Very very nice quality car .
https://www.mecum.com/lots/1165971/1...iac-gto-judge/

Not much info given or any documents shown.

12bolt axle might be a clerical error.
Red lugnuts and body color hood scoops were small mis-cues.
Think I like body color scoops better anyway.
Red center caps are likely correct going by the EUN range.
the axle from what I can see is the 10 bolt. couple photos attached. LMK what you think
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01B on trim tag is Jan 70, Second week.


06 paint code for orbit orange was originally code 60.
I posted the factory document here in tech forums that shows the change.

Red lugs were 67.


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Thank you. Which lugs should I have?

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Old 02-24-2026, 09:45 PM
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Black centered rally II lug nuts

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Your car was completed on , or about Jan 21 , the Invoice date.

Likely the original 10bolt rear intact. Can't make out the casting number on passenger side.
12bolt was a listing error.

Somewhere around mid December'ish , the Center Caps changed from Black to Red.
Yours are correct in Red.

Some promo pics show 1967 Rally 2 wheels with Red lugnuts , but it's controversial if any were ever used on a production car . Most say no . But they have been made available for decades.
Black Lugnuts are correct .

Any good catalyzed matte / semi-gloss finish black would be good on the scoops.
Spray can paint likely gets used on a lot of them by convenience.

Initially I thought you were implying the car was exported out of the US - to Holland .

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Old 02-25-2026, 01:01 AM
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The EUN 056xxxx stamped above WS on the front of your block led me to think your car was built much later in the year.

That EUN reflects to a casting date in late April 1970 timeframe.
You might want to see what the actual casting dates are on the block , heads and intake.
Carburetor and Distributor part numbers are particular to Ram Air equipped cars also.

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And look for the partial VIN on the block.
(down lower on passenger side by timing cover)

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The EUN 056xxxx stamped above WS on the front of your block led me to think your car was built much later in the year.

That EUN reflects to a casting date in late April 1970 timeframe.
You might want to see what the actual casting dates are on the block , heads and intake.
Carburetor and Distributor part numbers are particular to Ram Air equipped cars also.
from what i could see it must be a replacement block as the vin does not match / maybe you can provide some insight from the photo here. i do have a leaky waterpump as well that i need to address first warm day we get
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It looks to start out as 29G
That would be a 69 ( 9 ) year model WS with 2bolt main caps.
Originally installed in a car built in Framingham Mass ( G )

The casting date for the block is located near the bolt that tightens the distributor clamp.
Topside - at the very back - where block and bellhousing meet.
example B249

On the passenger side - rearward - above oil filter adapter area - there will be larger raised numerals.
Along where block and bellhousing meet.
Seven digits beginning with 9
example 9790071

56xxxxx EUN in 1969 should land around later Frebruary

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What does the OO mean

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