[propuckstopper]

Hi guys. I am just putting the finishing touches on the restoration of my 1965 GTO console (4 speed car). The car left the factory with this console, but when it was restored some years back it was not re-installed. When I bought the car about 12 years ago, this console was in the trunk in a box and was neatly packaged.

So, I have not even raised the carpet yet to have a look, but I am wondering if there exists some type of factory literature out there that illustrates the proper measurements for install at the factory in 1965.

I realize I might have to just wing this install completely, and I am thinking it really won't be all that difficult. However, it would be great to have some sort of factory diagram with measurements, so I can compare my journey with how it was done at the factory.

I do have everything(I think) as far as brackets and screws are concerned. Ames was helpful on the few parts I needed.

Thanks!

[bill ryder]

The front bracket should still be welded in the correct position, IF that portion of the floor pan did not need replacing. Maybe the original screw holes are also still available. You just need to pull the carpet back to see what you have. Good luck!

"Bill"!

[propuckstopper]

Hi Bill. Thanks for your reply. I never even thought about the original front bracket being welded to the floor from the factory. The reproduction front bracket bolts to the floor, so I just assumed that the originals might have been bolted in as well.

Anyway, all the more reason to roll back the carpet and do some investigating. However, I am in delay mode right now as the weather here has been great, so I want to drive the car as much as possible before we get five feet of snow and -40 temperatures. Just trying to do my homework now so I am ready when the seasons change.

Thanks again!

[propuckstopper]

Originally Posted by bill ryder

The front bracket should still be welded in the correct position, IF that portion of the floor pan did not need replacing. Maybe the original screw holes are also still available. You just need to pull the carpet back to see what you have. Good luck!

"Bill"!

Hi Bill. So, just to followup and put a finish on this thread, we pulled back the carpet and the factory front bracket was present in the factory welded position. Too easy! The original screw holes are also available, so everything is looking good. The console is restored, so I will be putting it in very soon.

Thanks again, Bill!

[Andre]

Rule #1 of console installation with a stick shift car: If you cant put the shifter in all 4 forward gears and 1 reverse gear without it smashing into the shifter cup, you don't have the console in the right place. Of course there are many other meddlesome details like incorrect shifter arm, aftermarket shifter, shifter adapter not installed, non stock transmission, but since this seems like stock installation, this should not be a factor.

I read that you found a welded bracket. That's a red flag of previous owner handiwork. The factory did NOT weld the front bracket in place, it was attached by 2 hex head screws. In addition the floor has two holes to attach it for these screws (unless the floor hump has been replaced). As the bracket is not symmetrical, it can be installed incorrectly causing the console to be in the wrong position.

[60sstuff]

Andre information is spot on.

There was never a bracket welded to the floor as mentioned earlier. Very misleading information.
Everything was attached with sheet metal screws as shown in the manuals.

[propuckstopper]

Originally Posted by propuckstopper

Hi Bill. So, just to followup and put a finish on this thread, we pulled back the carpet and the factory front bracket was present in the factory welded position. Too easy! The original screw holes are also available, so everything is looking good. The console is restored, so I will be putting it in very soon.

Thanks again, Bill!

After reading my previous post, I realize that I made an error in my wording. I stated that "the original screw holes are also available". What I should have said was that "the original screws are installed".

Andre and 60sstuff are entirely correct: these front console brackets were indeed screwed into the floor pan from the factory. I thought mine was welded in addition to being screwed in, but it isn't. I loosened the screws and the bracket loosened as well. The reproduction brackets also screw to the floor as well.

Sorry for any confusion. I just wanted to cofirm I made an error so as not to confuse the next guy.

[davedavidson]

Originally Posted by propuckstopper

Hi guys. I am just putting the finishing touches on the restoration of my 1965 GTO console (4 speed car). The car left the factory with this console, but when it was restored some years back it was not re-installed. When I bought the car about 12 years ago, this console was in the trunk in a box and was neatly packaged.

So, I have not even raised the carpet yet to have a look, but I am wondering if there exists some type of factory literature out there that illustrates the proper measurements for install at the factory in 1965.

I realize I might have to just wing this install completely, and I am thinking it really won't be all that difficult. However, it would be great to have some sort of factory diagram with measurements, so I can compare my journey with how it was done at the factory. geometry dash lite
I do have everything(I think) as far as brackets and screws are concerned. Ames was helpful on the few parts I needed.
Thanks!

For factory-correct placement, your best bet would be to look for the 1965 Pontiac Tempest/LeMans/GTO Assembly Manual. It often includes diagrams showing bracket locations and general positioning for components like the console. The Fisher Body Manual (1965) can also be helpful, especially for interior-related details.
That said, exact “measurement-style” specs (like precise distances) are rarely provided. Most factory installs were based on pre-drilled mounting points in the floor pan. Since your car originally had the console, there’s a good chance the holes or dimples are still there under the carpet or insulation.

[tempest1964]

I don’t even know if the ‘65 assembly manual is available. I don’t think it has been published. I know the ‘64 manual has not been published. And I know of at least 1 member of this forum who has a copy but won’t publish it.

[bdk1976]

A new forum 'user' posting to a year+ old dormant thread with a response that reads like AI slop...