Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 03-12-2026, 03:50 PM
android 211 android 211 is offline
Chief Ponti-yacker
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Miami, Florida
Posts: 783
Default Droopy hide away

I've read numerous posts on hide away head light covers not operating properly and didn't find much of instructional use. Mine do go up and down and while the car is running both are fully closed. Once I shut off one hangs down about an inch. I see advice about tightening a spring so how do I get to it? Shall I remove the valence panel?

I'd like to thank those who advised me on my brake booster replacement problem; I did get everything back together.

  #2  
Old 03-13-2026, 01:24 PM
1969GTO's Avatar
1969GTO 1969GTO is offline
Ultimate Warrior
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: central ny
Posts: 1,773
Default

remove the front grill half, depending on what side you are working on to gain access to the working parts.

__________________
color me gone
  #3  
Old 03-14-2026, 02:02 AM
dataway's Avatar
dataway dataway is offline
Ultimate Warrior
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Greenfield TN
Posts: 9,274
Default

Removing the inside grill sections (closest to the nose) get's you access to the door pivots, top of the spring and some adjustments. Removing valance gets you access to the vacuum cans, lower spring.

If the cans are good then you shouldn't have to take off the valance.

I think the "over center" adjustment is supposed to hold them up. Much depends on everything working correctly, cans, no leaks, bushings, adjustments etc.

__________________
I'm World's Best Hyperbolist !!
  #4  
Old 04-04-2026, 02:23 PM
VCho455's Avatar
VCho455 VCho455 is online now
Chief Ponti-yacker
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: PDX OR
Posts: 539
Default

Using an external source of vacuum helps. No need to have the engine idling for an hour or more while dialing in the adjustments. Just check to see that your car and the vacuum pump are providing similar amounts of vacuum.

__________________
If it breaks. I didn't want it in the first place.
_____________________________________________
69 GTO \ 72 FIREBIRD \ 1/2 OF A 64 GTO \ 70 JAVELIN \ 52 FORD PU \ 51 GMC PU \ 29 FORD PU \ 85 ALFA ROMEO SPYDER \ A HANDFUL OF ODD DUCATI'S \ 88 S10 LT1 BLAZER & MY DAILY DRIVER 67 SUBURBAN.
The Following User Says Thank You to VCho455 For This Useful Post:
  #5  
Old 04-13-2026, 05:49 PM
north's Avatar
north north is offline
Ultimate Warrior
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Posts: 6,834
Default

If they all the way up when running but drooping a bit with the engine off your issue is not vacuum. It is likely a combination of stretching of the over center springs and/or wear on the door pivot bushings as well as the bushing for the horizontal torque rods that connect the actuators to the pivoting doors. Since door bushings require removal of the whole bumper I'd focus first on the springs. I'm not impressed with the repop ones, instead you can tighten up the springs by cutting a little notch on the lip of the actuator support directly above the hole the top of the spring goes into now. This will make the spring tighter and hold up the door much better when there is no vacuum left in the system after shutting off the engine.

__________________
My Break Away Squad
1969 Fbird (base OHC, 350, 400HO & Sprint Cvt’s - 400HO & TA ht’s)
1969 Custom S 2dr ht
1969 LeMans (2dr & 4dr ht & Cvt)
1969 LeMans Safari wagon
1969 GTO (2 Cvt, 2 ht & Judge ht)
1969 Cat (3 Cvt’s & a 2dr ht)
1969 Ventura wagon 2 seat
1969 Exec 4dr post
1969 2 Bonnie Cvt's & 2 wagons
1969 Bonnie Brougham (4dr ht & Cvt)
1969 Grand Prix 2 SJ’s
1969 2+2 2dr ht (Canadian)
  #6  
Old 04-14-2026, 12:48 AM
dataway's Avatar
dataway dataway is offline
Ultimate Warrior
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Greenfield TN
Posts: 9,274
Default

I think if the system has no leaks, and the check valves are working properly, the vacuum can under the fender should maintain vacuum for a couple of days. But that can be rare if using an original headlight switch, most of them leak to some degree by now.

__________________
I'm World's Best Hyperbolist !!
  #7  
Old 04-20-2026, 05:28 PM
android 211 android 211 is offline
Chief Ponti-yacker
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Miami, Florida
Posts: 783
Default

How to get the grille off? I have ac so I have a mini grille in the valence opening. If I remove that do I gain access to the back of the grille? I looked close and don't see how the grille comes off from in front.
My bushings were all replaced and the canisters are repos too. I think my light switch is original.

  #8  
Old 04-24-2026, 12:36 PM
north's Avatar
north north is offline
Ultimate Warrior
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Posts: 6,834
Default

To remove the grills you need to remove the lower grills and the plastic shroud between the rad support and the bumper. This gives you access to two hex head screws on top and two on the bottom. With those removed you can wiggle and twist the grill out.

__________________
My Break Away Squad
1969 Fbird (base OHC, 350, 400HO & Sprint Cvt’s - 400HO & TA ht’s)
1969 Custom S 2dr ht
1969 LeMans (2dr & 4dr ht & Cvt)
1969 LeMans Safari wagon
1969 GTO (2 Cvt, 2 ht & Judge ht)
1969 Cat (3 Cvt’s & a 2dr ht)
1969 Ventura wagon 2 seat
1969 Exec 4dr post
1969 2 Bonnie Cvt's & 2 wagons
1969 Bonnie Brougham (4dr ht & Cvt)
1969 Grand Prix 2 SJ’s
1969 2+2 2dr ht (Canadian)
  #9  
Old 05-10-2026, 12:38 AM
Tuske427's Avatar
Tuske427 Tuske427 is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2016
Location: Los Angeles
Posts: 118
Default

My '69 GTO also had droopy hideaways when purchased. I shortened the spring and relocated where it attaches giving it more "over center" leverage for closing. work like new now..
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	Hideway headlight cover tuning.jpg
Views:	27
Size:	111.2 KB
ID:	669776  

__________________
Long live the Muscle Car
Instagram @tuske427
1967 Firebird #BVbird
1967 Firebird 400 4 speed project
1969 Verdoro green GTO (daily)
The Following User Says Thank You to Tuske427 For This Useful Post:
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 02:51 PM.

 

About Us

The PY Online Forums is the largest online gathering of Pontiac enthusiasts anywhere in the world. Founded in 1991, it was also the first online forum for people to gather and talk about their Pontiacs. Since then, it has become the mecca of Pontiac technical data and knowledge that no other place can surpass.

 




Copyright © 2017