[Skip Fix]

455 I've had together for a few years finally got to the dyno last week. Had an oil leak at rear driver's corner. Plate sized puddle after 11 pulls. Looked like pan bolts. Now looking more like rear main seal. 2 piece BOP machine shop did when they assembled sort block. They have assembled most of my motors, even using the old Caddy seal with luck before BOP came out.

How bad a deal is it to swap seals with crank in the motor. Loosen caps let it hang down, or pry up a little?

[73ta]

Have you tried the Wagner Dual Adjustable PCV valve? I got rid of a few leaks on my Pontiac that I had never been able to fix before.

[Skip Fix]

No it id have a regular PCV valve in it tapped into main plenum of T2.

[J.C.you]

Do a tilt test before disassembly

[Skip Fix]

Tilt test after pulling the bolts was totally negative. Now definitely positive at mid rear main carp and below pan. But motor was totally on its butt for a few minutes as I readjusted the chains on the lift. So I don't think even a vacuum pump or different PCV will help much

[John Milner]

I put a Best rope seal in a 421 of mine several years back and did not pull the crank. I took the main caps off and gently pried the crank up high enough to get the leaky seal out. I then worked in the new rope seal. Once I was confident that it was in the groove, I tightened up the main caps to seat the crank and pack the new seal in. From there, I trimmed the ends of the rear main seal very carefully with a razor blade. It has been leak free for around 7 years. It is certainly possible to change one without completely disassembling the engine.

[PontiacHO]

Used to remove and install rope seals in GM’s glorious front wheel drive engines while engine in car with crank in place. Had a keen threaded tool with handle to pull the top half out. This was a Kentmore kit that also had a “Chinese finger” installer with a thin cable to work over the crank and draw the seal into place. On some that felt loose I’d jamb and pack the loose ends into the block to ensur that half of the rope was tight in the groove and against the crank. Then trim the excess. The bearing cap half I’d pack the rope in tight also and used a big socket to ensure that half was firmly seated and packed into the groove. Leaving slack in the rope to continually pack in place until it was obvious that it had enough to ride firm against the crank. A small smear of RTV where the cap meets the clock and torque it down. And this has to be oiled so the rope won’t burn up on restart…

[Skip Fix]

Talked to Wade at BOP today. He has seen lots of "false positives" with the tilt test. Rear main seals the do no leak when the motor is running but when tilted drip as oil wicks down the crank serrations. So might have to put it on a run stand to be sure,especially since the dyno shop and I felt it looked more like a pan leak on when running.

[mgarblik]

I would put an evap. smoke machine on it before taking the engine apart. They find the leak almost every time.

[SRGN]

I've had good luck with replacing them in car without removing the crank. I use the neoprene seals, with anaerobic sealer on the joining sections. I usually offset the halves slightly from even with the main cap/block as well. As stated above, make sure it's actually a problem when the engine is running before jumping in. It sucks fixing something that ain't broke.

[scott70]

Could not having the normal pcv valve and hose hooked to the intake and valley pan cause a rear main leak on the dyno? Say the grommet was in the valley pan but just open to the air?

[TXSTARFIRE]

As long as there is a breather in the valve cover the crankcase will see the same conditions at WOT with or without a PCV valve. I dont think not having a PCV valve would cause a main seal leak.

[Skip Fix]

Normal PCV valve, hooked to a stock type(Butler/Tomahawk) valley and and into intake main plenum.

[Skip Fix]

Amazon has a bunch of testers Summit has one any suggestions?

Do they work finding water leaks in the cab of a truck?

[kingbuzzo]

I'm in the same boat with the bop two piece hair piece...subscribed and defeated 👀

[73ta]

Originally Posted by Skip Fix

Normal PCV valve, hooked to a stock type(Butler/Tomahawk) valley and and into intake main plenum.

Normal PCV valve was factory calibrated for stock engine, with stock valve covers/breathers. Wagner allows for non stock calibration. Seems to work for many to cure small leaks, drips. Worked for me!

[73ta]

[QUOTE= I dont think not having a PCV valve would cause a main seal leak.[/QUOTE]

It does for many!

[Skip Fix]

But it is leaking just sitting there also.
Stock valve covers and breather also.

[Tuske427]

Originally Posted by Skip Fix

But it is leaking just sitting there also.
Stock valve covers and breather also.

suggest to wipe the engine clean and then run it again. this way you can spot a fresh oil trail and trace it up to its highest point to find the source of the leak.

[Skip Fix]

Got a smoke tester ordered be here next week I'll keep you posted.