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Ive used WIX oil filters for alot of years. Whats the latest on which brand to use on our pontiacs (or anythig else for that matter). - Jon
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'78 Macho T/A DKM#95, 460cid, SRP pistons, KRE 310 D ports, 3" pypes, Hooker 1 3/4" headers, hydraulic roller, 10" Continental, 3.42 gears 11.5 @117.5mph 3900lbs ![]() ([_|_] ##\|/##[_|_]) |
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I switched to Baldwin and will also use Hastings. Both are made in the USA. No more Wix for me...
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No Wix, even Purolator is better, in fact there pretty darn good!
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Wernher Von Braun warned before his retirement from NASA back in 1972, that the next world war would be against the ETs! And he was not talking about 1/8 or 1/4 mile ETs! 1) 1940s 100% silver 4 cup tea server set. Two dry rotted 14 x 10 Micky Thompson slicks. 1) un-mailed in gift coupon from a 1972 box of corn flakes. Two pairs of brown leather flip flops, never seen more then 2 mph. Education is what your left with once you forget things! |
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Baldwin B39 for me.
I bet they shrunk that WIX filter to save cost and fit into tight engine bays. I'd still use it if I had to. Heck, look how small a filter for a LS is. Even the 5.7 Hemi car application calls for a small body filter. One difference may be that these new engines use thinner oil, and don't need as much filter area. A midsize filter body like the new WIX is likely OK, but I wouldn't use a filter as small as a LS.
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Thanks fellows. So much for buying local, i guess ill be buying my oil filters online. I don't think i can source Baldwin locally. Ill keep an eye out for purolator
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'78 Macho T/A DKM#95, 460cid, SRP pistons, KRE 310 D ports, 3" pypes, Hooker 1 3/4" headers, hydraulic roller, 10" Continental, 3.42 gears 11.5 @117.5mph 3900lbs ![]() ([_|_] ##\|/##[_|_]) |
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Baldwin B9 is the larger version of the B39 if you don’t have headers .
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Wix filters have replaced Frams in my local Home Depot..
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If you're buying Purolator the top model is the Boss as far as filtration specs.
https://www.amazon.com/Purolator-PBL...ve&sr=1-1&th=1 I use their filter ( Purolator Boss) in all my fleet, along with a by pass filter if you're serious about exceptionally clean oil that can run much longer between service intervals. |
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Is the XP Wix filters still good to use? I have one on the bottom of my Clearview which filters to 115 Micron itself. Wix 51060XP i believe. It was wire backed media which I like with my Titan oil Pump.
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Ok, I thought the WIX issues were limited and have been corrected? Is the issue that it's just smaller now or what specifically is the issue(s)?
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Thanks for the tips all
I am using headers Im not aware of any issues with wix filters other than the size difference with the same part number.
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'78 Macho T/A DKM#95, 460cid, SRP pistons, KRE 310 D ports, 3" pypes, Hooker 1 3/4" headers, hydraulic roller, 10" Continental, 3.42 gears 11.5 @117.5mph 3900lbs ![]() ([_|_] ##\|/##[_|_]) |
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I have yet to see the size difference here and I'm sourcing them at Napa and oreillys. No problems here.
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First Guess: Same filter, different paint and different box. Last I checked, you have to look at the individual filters (not the boxes) to see where they're made. SO FAR, the Purolator oil filters I've been using are USA. But don't stop looking at them, because Mann + Hummel will source from where-ever they feel like this week. |
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That must be why.
Ive cut open close to 20 wix filters recently on 4 new engines. They are either wix from oreillys or Napa gold from Napa depending on where I'm buying that day, and they are all identical. All still say made in usa (like that makes a difference) but it seems to matter to some people. I'm thinking depending on where you are in the country and where they are sourced from is making some sort of difference in vendor and/or supplier variances. Anyone cut open one of the shorter ones yet to see if there are differences inside vs the taller one?? I have yet to get my hands on a shorter version. They seem to be non existent out here. |
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I don't think the filter 'shrinking' is an 'issue' per se, I'm more concerned about construction and filtration. I suspect it may have been done to consolidate product lines more so than construction costs. I think ACDelco did the same with the PF24s.
I would be interested if the WIX filters have dropped off in quality/function though, that's why I asked. As for the XP filters, they were designed to provide longer service life when using syn oils, and in doing so the level of filtration was compromised. If your using syn oil and extended change intervals, then maybe it's a good way to go, but personally will continue to use the higher filtration filters and change oil more frequently. I went outside and looked at the case of 51258s I bought a couple of years ago, and they are the slightly shorter variety. .
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I went into NAPA about a year ago and bought a NAPA Gold for my GP. I noticed it was marked Made in USA so I bought all 6 they had on the shelf - all were Made in USA. When those are used up I will most likely switch to Baldwin.
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When in reality a hair shorter filter doesn't mean squat as long as it's constructed with the same filtration quality inside. Hence the reason I asked if anyone has cut the shorter filter open, that's where the truth lies. Even better how's the oil analysis look? Still a good filter media doing it's job or does it suck. That's what I'll use to determine if it's still worthy so until I see those results and a major change in quality then there is no reason to swap brands at this point. |
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First QC issues started to show up with MH now more cost cutting is enough for me to stay far away. They even paid for the oil their faulty filter dumped on the ground and could have caused a lot more damage. Stupid if you qsk me.
Looks like Wix is slowly becoming Fram |
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How old are the M+H reports ?
Is M+H quality back up again now? This from 2024 https://bobistheoilguy.com/forums/th...in-now.388994/ .
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'70 TA / 505 cid / same engine but revised ( previous best 10.63 at 127.05 ) Old information here: http://www.hotrod.com/articles/0712p...tiac-trans-am/ Sponsor of the world's fastest Pontiac powered Ford Fairmont (engine) Best time 5.13 at 140 mph (1/8 mile) , true 10.5 tire, stock type suspension https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qDoJnIP3HgE Last edited by Steve C.; 07-11-2026 at 11:22 AM. |
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The WIX 51045 is a common smaller filter with headers.
https://www2.wixfilters.com/Lookup/E...x?PartNo=51045 .
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'70 TA / 505 cid / same engine but revised ( previous best 10.63 at 127.05 ) Old information here: http://www.hotrod.com/articles/0712p...tiac-trans-am/ Sponsor of the world's fastest Pontiac powered Ford Fairmont (engine) Best time 5.13 at 140 mph (1/8 mile) , true 10.5 tire, stock type suspension https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qDoJnIP3HgE |
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