[J.C.you]

Saw Yoman run a 3.82-209. Looked like a small tire too. He have the Kaufman motor in it?

[krisr]

I thought that car got a Proline 481x?

[Gary H]

Yes, pretty sure he put a 481X motor in it early last year.

[dragracerx2813]

I am pretty sure he went to a billet Hemi.

[Scott Roberts]

Lol...negative on the kre engine..

[Tom Vaught]

For sure a Proline engine vs the KRE Engine. Not sure if Hemi or 481X.
Do not follow that manufacturer much.

I follow the Noonan race engines out of Spartanburg SC.

Tom V.

Good luck to Tommy with his engine and program.

[GTOGEORGE]

Guess he wasn't doing too bad with the Pontiac.....a Pontiac is only going to take you so far!
Yes it has a hemi, unless he has changed recently .

GTO George

[J.C.you]

The main thing I noticed is he had the car sorted out and made a really nice pass on the 3.82 run. Bet he wouldn't be off that number much with the poncho motor

[GTOGEORGE]

Originally Posted by J.C.you

The main thing I noticed is he had the car sorted out and made a really nice pass on the 3.82 run. Bet he wouldn't be off that number much with the poncho motor

I’m think you are probably right!


GTO George

[Dragncar]

And how quick has Chief gone with puny cast E heads and cast block ? Bet his car weighs more too.

[GTOGEORGE]

Originally Posted by Dragncar

And how quick has Chief gone with puny cast E heads and cast block ? Bet his car weighs more too.

Its funny most of the street racers (Daddy Dave, Murder Nova, Ryne Martin) ALL have BIG ports in their cylinder heads.....what do they all have in common they are all quicker then Chief, that's why Chief doesn't run NPK he can't keep up anymore. Turbos can only help so much......LOL!


GTO George

[Sirrotica]

When he (Chief) raced at Indy in the Crow Mod Firebird, I believe he ran a 3.99, 1/8th mile, 5-6 years ago. He made the field, but he was near the bottom on the qualifying list. The current GTO is heavier than the Crow Mod is, so no idea of what this car is capable of, with the same basic engine combination he's been running for years.

Most anyone that's currently running NPKs doesn't have any stock style engines any longer, from what I've seen on the show. Every engine is race bred origins.

I've even noticed that JJ has been slowly switching from production based engines. I believe his latest blue Nova (Hummingbird) has a hemi in it.

[Tom Vaught]

Originally Posted by Sirrotica

When he (Chief) raced at Indy in the Crow Mod Firebird, I believe he ran a 3.99, 1/8th mile, 5-6 years ago. He made the field, but he was near the bottom on the qualifying list. The current GTO is heavier than the Crow Mod is, so no idea of what this car is capable of, with the same basic engine combination he's been running for years.

The same "heavy chassis" (Palbykin's Judge striped GTO), Ran 5.80s in the quarter at Tucson with a BAE Supercharged Engine. So the chassis is not
the reason why Chief is slower vs the others (according to a few here).

Tom V.

[GTOGEORGE]

That chassis is long gone the only thing left of Marty’s car is some of the sheet metal!


GTO George

[Scott Roberts]

Originally Posted by Tom Vaught

The same "heavy chassis" (Palbykin's Judge striped GTO), Ran 5.80s in the quarter at Tucson with a BAE Supercharged Engine. So the chassis is not
the reason why Chief is slower vs the others (according to a few here).

Tom V.

Justin had a comparable chassis to everyone else... he just didn't have the hp..
Justin's strength is his ability to read a track and tune it for an a-b run...

[Sirrotica]

Originally Posted by Tom Vaught

The same "heavy chassis" (Palbykin's Judge striped GTO), Ran 5.80s in the quarter at Tucson with a BAE Supercharged Engine. So the chassis is not
the reason why Chief is slower vs the others (according to a few here).

Tom V.

I said it was heavier than his other car, I never said, or alluded to, that it was a poor chassis.

You're an engineer, so is lighter usually faster? Given the engine, and traction were comparable between the two.

I'm well aware that he is outclassed in torque and HP by cars he would be competing against in NPK, if he were to run in that series.

[Scott Roberts]

Originally Posted by Dragncar

And how quick has Chief gone with puny cast E heads and cast block ? Bet his car weighs more too.

I know you want the Pontiac to be competitive with the hybrids but it isn't gonna happen! Pontiac may be close but it can't compete...even if it was right there, parts avaliable and consistency would keep it from being competitive..
You could smoke a proline on Saturday and have parts overnighted for Sunday.

[opeliac]

Why in the hell are people really trying to compare a cast edelbrock headed 482" Pontiac, against an all billet 540" Hemi??? Does it make you feel smart for saying the Hemi is faster?????

Also, so i'm fair here...If you are a Pontiac fan(which I am), and you are trying to act like the 482 in Chief's car makes the HP needed to compete with a billet Proline Hemi, then you are an idiot...

Sorry if this hurts anybody's feelings.

[Stan Weiss]

Originally Posted by opeliac

Why in the hell are people really trying to compare a cast edelbrock headed 482" Pontiac, against an all billet 540" Hemi??? Does it make you feel smart for saying the Hemi is faster?????

Also, so i'm fair here...If you are a Pontiac fan(which I am), and you are trying to act like the 482 in Chief's car makes the HP needed to compete with a billet Proline Hemi, then you are an idiot...

Sorry if this hurts anybody's feelings.

Some people who are posting just have an agenda and ignore the facts. Chief does not make the HP that Tommy's billet 505 Pontiac does.

Stan

[PAUL K]

Originally Posted by opeliac

Why in the hell are people really trying to compare a cast edelbrock headed 482" Pontiac, against an all billet 540" Hemi??? Does it make you feel smart for saying the Hemi is faster?????

Also, so i'm fair here...If you are a Pontiac fan(which I am), and you are trying to act like the 482 in Chief's car makes the HP needed to compete with a billet Proline Hemi, then you are an idiot...

Sorry if this hurts anybody's feelings.

From what I've seen, Chief has proved a 482 Pontiac can compete against all comers in the races he participates in. He is usually top three at most races he enters.

John Langer has competed against all brands in a heads class and has been successful, along with others in the past.. On a smaller scale Dick Fulton has "owned" an endurance race he competes in at a track in Minnesota, that is a heads up class and open to all makes.

A bit more to it than just which engine makes the most power, if that was the case EVERYONE would tie for first place..... GTOGEORGE has won races with his Pontiac in open classes.

It's amazing what can be accomplished once the chair in front of the "keyboards" is vacated.