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Old 02-10-2014, 03:01 AM
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well that hurdles done. how bout the rest? is it gonna be a norwalk or what?

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well that hurdles done. how bout the rest? is it gonna be a norwalk or what?
I believe Bill is paying for two residences currently, so until that's rectified, its hard to bet his car will make Norwalk.

The motor is in final blueprint/detail/assembly mode as time and cash allows. He has all the pieces.

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As a BOP belt drive user, I would like to know how another belt is more proven and better/stronger than the BOP belt which I have not heard that its had any failures.
Fixing something that isnt broke imo. I understand that Wade doesnt make a tall deck belt drive any more and that is why they are building one so why not just say that instead of our belt is proven and its better/stronger?

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As a BOP belt drive user, I would like to know how another belt is more proven and better/stronger than the BOP belt which I have not heard that its had any failures.
Fixing something that isnt broke imo. I understand that Wade doesnt make a tall deck belt drive any more and that is why they are building one so why not just say that instead of our belt is proven and its better/stronger?
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Just because a belt has not been used to turn a camshaft does not mean that it does not a have long and prove history in industrial use where it may have handled must great loads.

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Just because a belt has not been used to turn a camshaft does not mean that it does not a have long and prove history in industrial use where it may have handled must great loads.

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Ok, I give their new belt is more proven and its better/stronger than BOP's belt which hasnt had a failure.

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Ok, I give their new belt is more proven and its better/stronger than BOP's belt which hasnt had a failure.
Atta boy...theres no use. They think it and its as good as gold...even better.

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Atta boy...theres no use. They think it and its as good as gold...even better.

... no need for being dramatic Mike, i'll send ya' some kool-aid if you like ?? ...

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Ok, I give their new belt is more proven and its better/stronger than BOP's belt which hasnt had a failure.
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Please note that nowhere did I say that there were any problems with the BOP's belt or another part of that system.

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Ok, I give their new belt is more proven and its better/stronger than BOP's belt which hasnt had a failure.
No dig, just wanting info.
So who else is currently running this different manufacture belt system to be proven stronger and better?
Is it available to the public?

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As a BOP belt drive user, I would like to know how another belt is more proven and better/stronger than the BOP belt which I have not heard that its had any failures.
Fixing something that isnt broke imo. I understand that Wade doesnt make a tall deck belt drive any more and that is why they are building one so why not just say that instead of our belt is proven and its better/stronger?

... seriously, relax ok ? ... Bruce is just repeating something he was told ... Bruce is not stating the BOP system doesn't work, and work well ...

... the belt being used in 572 build is basically a "Prostock" level piece, it's larger in size and has higher load capacity, Bruce is just stating a fact, nothing more, Bruce did not make any claims of BOP failures Brian ...

... i talked directly to Wade about the tall deck belt issue i was faced with, as Wade did not have any, but willing to make more, just for me, but the cost was high, as Wade would have to make just one unit for my engine, which the cost was understandable high ...

... i told him i appreciated his time, but we'd try to find a cheaper alternative to my belt-drive problem, Wade was very helpful to me and i appreciated his help ... even he understood me not wanting to spend over $3,000 for just one belt drive ...

... Wade was very easy to talk to, and makes a nice product, i think we all know that ...

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Since we are on the subject... Are belt drives worth any measurable horsepower or is the benefit more or less reduced valvetrain harmonics?

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Since we are on the subject... Are belt drives worth any measurable horsepower or is the benefit more or less reduced valvetrain harmonics?
People like Grumpy Jenkins felt there was which is why he ran a Nylon Gear set-up in his Pro Stock Vega years ago. Grumpy did stuff for a reason.

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Since we are on the subject... Are belt drives worth any measurable horsepower or is the benefit more or less reduced valvetrain harmonics?
Measurable? Only Jenkins would have known the answer to that deal.

Reduced Valvetrain harmonics? Would be high on my list as a possible reason.

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Reduced Valvetrain harmonics? Would be high on my list as a possible reason.

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That would be the main benefit in my opinion.

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Since we are on the subject... Are belt drives worth any measurable horsepower or is the benefit more or less reduced valvetrain harmonics?
Ease of advancing/retarding the cam is a big plus to me. Good hp gains can be found there that most never see because of the work involved to do it normally.

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Again, I really hope they get the engine/car together so that Jack, Jeff, Mike, and the rest of the ECM guys can skull drag their stuff down the track at Norwalk this August.

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Again, I really hope they get the engine/car together so that Jack, Jeff, Mike, and the rest of the ECM guys can skull drag their stuff down the track at Norwalk this August.

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My junk is coming along nicely. Gaby should have everything by early March then a week to assemble then dyno.

King Kinslers ride is going to be a little hotter come this year also. If he makes it to Norwalk he will be hard to beat for a lot of people.

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1st off... Its NOT a 1" belt! Its a wider stronger belt used on certain non Pontiac applications... It may be different length than a BOP spec'd belt.

It may or may not be available for production or for those needing a replacement for their tall deck.

Dont know if their are production plans for standard deck with similar width belt.

This one is for the IA tall deck Bill is putting together.

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